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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 421 to 440 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 Next Page•Last PageMR MAHARAJ: Yes Sir, I played a part in the committee that was charged by the ANC with preparing the documentation, and I appeared in the ANC team before the TRC in motivating and explaining the submission. MR BOTHA: The members who had been allocated from Durban to interrogate Messrs Gordhan and Lalla were Carl Duhr, Marius Greyling and Frans Bothma. A fourth member who has passed away in the meantime was Warrant Officer Basson and he was also allocated to that interrogation team. MR NORTJE: I am not sure, if I think about it, I cannot recall that all of them were there, that the whole two buses were there, but on the other hand I want to imagine that the blue bus which was Nofomela’s bus, and the white bus, these were normal Nissan E20 mini-buses, I imagine that I saw them ... In Natal, and in KwaZulu in particular, the violence against anti-apartheid organisations and individuals intensified in the mid-1980s with the emergence of the "warlords" and "vigilantes" in rural and urban areas. These included gangs such as the AmaSinyora in KwaMashu, the core of which consisted ... MR BEESLAAR: Yes, but it’s possible that we could have returned but it is quite possible that we went with the team. MR NGOBESE: kwaMakuto. It was at kwaMakutho and Zibogodweni, this was the area where there was conflict between Amampondo and Amazulu. Sefiso had left Chesterville because of the A team problem. After the shooting all the members of the team entered the house, grabbed documents and weapons which they found in the house and vacated the premises as soon as they could. They drove to the border and left Swaziland by crossing the fence illegally. They did not make use of the border posts. MR FLORES: Myself and my team of askaris purchased a whole lot of ingredients to make Russian cocktails, which was petrol, washing powder etc. and cloth. A counter-revolutionary intelligence task team was created andcomprised members of the National Intelligence Service, the SouthAfrican Police and the South African Defence Force. It was theirtask to properly evaluate and coordinate all intelligence regardingthe revolutionary threat facing the ... MR BOOYENS: It seems as though he’s a manager of a team of informers, to put it in ordinary language? MR PIENAAR: I can only start, Chairperson, by saying that I did not have any knowledge beforehand of this operation that was executed by Capt van Dyk and his team. One morning he approached me in my office and informed me that he had a man at Moolman that was brought from Swaziland, and if I would ... MR BOTHA: Col de Kock told us that Mr Baker would take over the operation and that me, Wouter Mentz, Rian Bellingan and Baker himself would form the team who would undertake the work. MR LAMEY: And from there then you made statements to the investigating team from the Attorney-General's office. Can you briefly tell the Committee what the circumstances were surrounding the signing of your initial amnesty application? How did this come about? MR ROSSOUW: Just before we continue, the co-operation between yourself, a member of C2 to then join the operational team, C1, did this happen before at other opportunities? Have you worked with them before? MR WASSERMAN: The instruction was to - well there was a bit of pandemonium when the message was that they had left and we were not, we went to great pains to make sure that we could catch up with the vehicle, so that we could inform the team what was happening. MR DU TOIT: It is possible that I spoke to him, but I cannot recall that I said anything to him regarding a disguise or a beard or anything like that. Usually there were many people on such a scene and the first person that one would speak to would be the demolitions expert, who in this case was ... So, during those years, they recorded rabies for example. Mr Vally has his facts wrong, and he must get his Investigative Team to ascertain these facts. MR NGOBESE:: Yes, it is correct. He was telling the truth if that were the needs. If the needs of the team were not being fulfilled, I agree with him. While thinking of a way to acquire firearms, the applicant states that he was approached by a colleague, one sergeant J J Mdluli, who was also wanting to acquire firearms in order to assist ANC supporters from his area. Mdluli informed the applicant that he had had a discussion with constable S ... ADV GCABASHE: In relation to the 31st August which is the day that the Vlakplaas team successfully completed this operation, in relation to that when did you see General Erasmus, one week, one month, two months before? |
