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A-Team (OFS)Explanation MR PRETORIUS: That is correct. That would be the exception to the rule, Chairperson, as I have already stated. If I can recall correctly Mr Coetzee made use of my members on a regular basis. The reason for that is because Mr Coetzee and I worked together for several years in Soweto and when he ... MR J VAN ZYL:: There is only one unit, and that is "Koevoet". I had a team and at one stage Mr Winter had a team as well, although he was regarded as the investigations officer who handled general intelligence at the unit. MR VALLY: The second item is that the legal team of Doctor Wouter Basson have indicated that they will object to him giving evidence here. They can indicate the basis therefore. We are of the view that we should have that argument earlier rather than later. And I'm advised that as Mr Cilliers is ... Do you know of any interest that Mr Hatting had in a soccer team? MR VAN ECK: He stated that at that stage you were the Captain of the first team. MR CORNELIUS: And you didn't supply a statement to the Special Investigation Team of the Attorney-General's office? MR BASSON: Mr Chairperson, we were led by the legal team or our legal team in the incidents where we were involved together and the applications would be then appear the same and we did it on those grounds, it was not a case where it was mine or his, we were basically led that they would be the ... MR KNOETZE: I agree Mr Chairman. Mr Kloppers a copy of a revised application for amnesty of Mr Van der Schyff was handed to your legal team at a previous opportunity. Did you also get a copy? MR ROSSOUW: Did you know that these two gentlemen were members of the Investigative Team in KwaNdebele in the unrest areas? MR PRIOR: We understand from the documentation provided to us and the evidence that was tendered, that there was a bus belonging to the South West African schoolboy team that had played or had visited the stadium on that occasion which had been parked very close to where the bomb had exploded. ... MR OOSTHUIZEN: Chairperson, there was close co-operation between the special investigating team and the Security Branches, not only, in this case the Security Branch Northern Transvaal, but this was applicable countrywide wherever we worked. And we worked with the Security Branch we were under ... MR CURRIN: You realise of course, that part of your investigating team was there within hours and had Two - they state that they needed their legal representative because certain allegations have been made by the applicant's team and they feel that is disparaging allegations done against them. And they did consult with their two Attorneys last night who unfortunately are unavailable to can be ... MR LAMEY: Just to return to the bundle which has been placed before you, initially you submitted an amnesty application, you completed the prescribed form yourself, that is from page 30 to 38 and in that initial amnesty application you provided summaries regarding various incidents in which you as ... MR BOOYENS: And on that day, were other members of your team also in the field? CHAIRPERSON: Mr Coetser, just to help you out here. I think this applicant has been represented by a team that must rank with one of the more experienced amnesty application teams and if there's at the end of the day a possibility that you're going to have to argue that there was an intervening ... As the project grew, and as the project ran for a number of years, the control mechanism became a lot better, became much more intimate and the extent to which South African Medical Services interfaced with us became a true working relationship, for example, at the end of the project, or when I ... ADV SIGODI: And were you part of the - I mean from your evidence I understand that you were part of the team that was investigating Mr Bhila? MR RAUTENBACH: You testified, and I'll use your statement, you indicated - I'm just looking for the correct paragraph, you refer to the team spirit between the government and the security branch and the so-called blind loyalty between the security branch and the government. As far as that is ... CHAIRPERSON: Now Mr Ras testified here yesterday and I attempted to determine the same thing from him and he says that he decided when you were already at the house and that man came out, he decided "we need another plan", and then I asked him whether or not he discussed this with Mr de Kock ... |
