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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 281 to 300 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 •19 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Thank you. It remains for me to thank you, gentlemen, and I say so comfortably, because I have been saying gentlemen ever since I started, except only for yesterday when there was one lady who came and it speaks to what you have been asked by Hugh Lewin. I do not, of course, ... So therefore Mr Nortje, the conclusion is that Gen Engelbrecht says he, just like other people, was misled by your team at Vlakplaas as to the true facts. MR MARAIS: Mr Chairman, I really only began to become interested in politics in 1980 while I was at university in Bloemfontein. That year there was a general election, and we as students were recruited to help with this election. Former Minister Kobie Coetzee stood there for the National Party ... "Mr Chairman I have already testified before the Amnesty Committee and before the investigation team and I have confirmed that certain instructions were given with the approval of the Minister..." the attacker, they had a team. Then we asked Mrs Msimang, "Mrs Msimang, you say Xola was a hero?", "Yes". "You've seen your heroes, the security force?" "Yes". "They'll try by all means to come to their houses to tell their parents what happened to them, now what kind of a hero are you referring to, while the hero was still ... MR THOBEJANE: We had a Reconnaissance Unitor a Reconnaissance Team that was a sub-Unit from the main Unit. Its duty wasto gather all the information that might be used or that we might use as theUnit so the Reconnaissance Team during their reconnaissance, they have gatheredsuch information because ... MR NORTJE: I am not sure, if I think about it, I cannot recall that all of them were there, that the whole two buses were there, but on the other hand I want to imagine that the blue bus which was Nofomela’s bus, and the white bus, these were normal Nissan E20 mini-buses, I imagine that I saw them ... MR NGOBESE: kwaMakuto. It was at kwaMakutho and Zibogodweni, this was the area where there was conflict between Amampondo and Amazulu. Sefiso had left Chesterville because of the A team problem. In Natal, and in KwaZulu in particular, the violence against anti-apartheid organisations and individuals intensified in the mid-1980s with the emergence of the "warlords" and "vigilantes" in rural and urban areas. These included gangs such as the AmaSinyora in KwaMashu, the core of which consisted ... After the shooting all the members of the team entered the house, grabbed documents and weapons which they found in the house and vacated the premises as soon as they could. They drove to the border and left Swaziland by crossing the fence illegally. They did not make use of the border posts. MR BEESLAAR: Yes, but it’s possible that we could have returned but it is quite possible that we went with the team. MR BOTHA: The members who had been allocated from Durban to interrogate Messrs Gordhan and Lalla were Carl Duhr, Marius Greyling and Frans Bothma. A fourth member who has passed away in the meantime was Warrant Officer Basson and he was also allocated to that interrogation team. MR FLORES: Myself and my team of askaris purchased a whole lot of ingredients to make Russian cocktails, which was petrol, washing powder etc. and cloth. CHAIRPERSON: But that is the reason for my questions. You were there, you handled the beers, you were a member of the team which went on this operation, why can't we determine what these beers would have been used for? Mr Olifant, in the bundle before you this Panel there is on page 146 to 152, an initial application dated the 11th of December 1996, signed before a Commissioner of Oaths, Andrew Liesk. Can I just lead you on this. Is this the first application that you submitted to the TRC with the assistance ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, firstly the request was issued to me by Brig van Rensburg that Mrs Coetzee be followed. I had to arrange for a surveillance team which would attempt to determine whether or not she could lead the police to Dirk Coetzee and then furthermore we also started receiving ... I don't remember who said it, but somebody mentioned that a person was from the Sithole family and he also said that he also played for a team owned by Bongeni Mzizi. MR BOOYENS: On page or paragraph 28 you deal with the situation on the ground and, perhaps, just for sake of completeness, there is a little bit more detail here. That morning, very, very early, before it was light, this police task team moved in? MS MARCUS: I don't recall the specifics, but probably myself and others who had been part of preparing them. We would have a team who would be part of collecting the banners and distributing them at the march. |
