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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 341 to 360 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 14 •15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 Next Page•Last PageMR WILLS: Yes, because Gen Steyn has conceded during his cross-examination that the members of de Beer's unit, of de Beer's investigation team who were investigating on a national level the Operation Vula, were looking for these people and so you were part of the plan to tell these people that you ... MR MATTHEWS: You would have to ask my legal team about that. I cannot answer that question. I have been in prison, I do not have free access to him and I cannot see him when I want to. MR WALUS: Mr Chairman it's half the truth because the police discovered this list but I can't say I gave it to them, I have no other option, they discovered it and took it. They were investigating team about this assassination. I couldn't give anything, I was not in the position to give or not, I ... CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR HUGO: Yes, thank you Mr Chairman. Colonel Willy, who was the Head of this Investigation Team that was tasked to bring the culprits to book and to take them to court? Thank you. The interrogation team consisted of several members of the special branch. Is that right? --- Yes, that's right. They used to work in rotation. MR HATTINGH: Was it members of the team who were involved with the operation that went down to Durban, to discuss the matter with the Durban Security Police? MR LAMEY: Thank you Mr Chairman, yes I confirm what Mr Brink has said. Mr Chairman I beg leave to hand up to the Committee, these documents have been distributed to the legal representatives of the other parties. It's a bundle of photos which I have obtained from the investigating team of the ... The applicant also admits to assaulting Mr Jones. He testified to assaulting him a number of times by means of the piece of hosepipe while the two of them were alone after the rest of the interrogating team had left the room for reasons which are not really clear. This was after about eighteen ... (Inaudible) ... you approached Captain who? --- Captain P Harter. He was in command of the investigating team. Captain P Harter has now retired. He got promotion, he and Captain Schilling. On Roland's case they got promotion to majors, they're both majors, but he has now retired. MR VISSER: And was this identified to the Investigative Team of the TRC? MR SNYDERS: He was a worker in my team, I acted as a Lieutenant in command of two teams who operated in the Eastern Transvaal and he was one of the persons who worked in my team. COL LOOTS: No, I testified Bokaba joined when Dunira resigned and Sengwane and Bokaba then formed a team. MR VISSER: Yes, I don't want to create the impression, my attorney has just checked me on this, I don't want to create the impression that he didn't know about the incident, he obviously knew about the fact that there was an explosion and in fact he also, if I remember correctly, formed part of the ... "Nature and particulars: I was a member of a team consisting of Defence Force and Security Police members who apprehended a group of 10 ANC MK activists while they were on their way to Botswana in a kombi for further training." EXAMINATION BY MR CORNELIUS: Thank you Mr Chairman. Mr Vermeulen, you have made an application and handed it in in Cape Town and you gave your full co-operation to the Investigative Team of the TRC. MR PRINSLOO: Did you, or are you aware that after that an investigation was launched, during your presentation of your matter with regard to the accused, when you were the investigating officer? That an investigation was launched and that various statements were taken by the investigating team? MR LAMEY: Well, may I just say this Mr Chairman, generally it contains information about his background and then there is also an extract of a previous affidavit which was we assume made to the Goldstone Commission and to the Investigating Team of the Attorney General, specifically relating to this ... Commission or the investigative unit or the legal team on behalf We stayed. Willie and I formed the team and worked together for about five years. Today we are free, thanks in part for the contribution of the young people. Let us remember them with a simple plaque. Their victory is our victory. There were other people that he could have turned to and I must just comment Mr Chairman that at that time the focus of that Commission was not really matters of the past, it was focusing very much on what was happening at that time and the future and in particular, it was focusing on the security ... |