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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 381 to 400 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 Next Page•Last Page Now we did our best and now on that hot pursuit, we arrested a lot of people, more especially people in whose villages we found our team staff which had been captured in that ambush. I don't remember who said it, but somebody mentioned that a person was from the Sithole family and he also said that he also played for a team owned by Bongeni Mzizi. MR BOOYENS: On page or paragraph 28 you deal with the situation on the ground and, perhaps, just for sake of completeness, there is a little bit more detail here. That morning, very, very early, before it was light, this police task team moved in? Mr Olifant, in the bundle before you this Panel there is on page 146 to 152, an initial application dated the 11th of December 1996, signed before a Commissioner of Oaths, Andrew Liesk. Can I just lead you on this. Is this the first application that you submitted to the TRC with the assistance ... CHAIRPERSON: But that is the reason for my questions. You were there, you handled the beers, you were a member of the team which went on this operation, why can't we determine what these beers would have been used for? MR NTULI: There are so many reasons. This person was training us in Karate in the area, when he joined the IFP and the other young boys, because there was this Youth League and the others who were in the soccer team, most of the young boys who were involved there and some of them, most of them ... MS MARCUS: I don't recall the specifics, but probably myself and others who had been part of preparing them. We would have a team who would be part of collecting the banners and distributing them at the march. ADV NYOKA: Okay. Let's leave that for now. You said in your evidence in chief, you did not know the three Pebco persons when you were told by Mr Van Zyl to be part of this team, not so, you did not know them. All that you knew was that they were Pebco executive members, is that so? Another baptism of operating illegally in prison, running communications as part of a team for twelve years and then another six months and a house arrest where I knew I was heavily monitored and I had to escape despite that monitoring. So I knew that look, I had the training, but this man who ... He then a few days later finds or is requested by Doctor van Niekerk to inspect the number of burnt bodies in the mortuary. Given - or let's postulate normal times, a policeman with that knowledge would I think have a duty to at least inform the investigation team tasked with the investigation of ... in our custody, but IEU's in team. Mr Robertshaw, when you were part of the team fetching Tax - you were part of that team, isn't it? MR MAZIBUKO: Like I have indicated that in a way, in terms of the situation, we could no longer be in a position to control our members, but we were as leadership in a position to restrain them from certain activities. Finally our area was left without police, but I would also like to take this ... MRS DERBY-LEWIS: The first point is of course, that on the face of it the TRC did have a report and the face of it - as I will refer to just now, it would appear that Mr Bizos’s team had access to this report which we didn’t because on Wednesday afternoon he asked certain questions and those ... From his evidence Sir it appears that even to get his mail he must use his father's work address. And he says even in that instance, Alice being what it is he still cannot get his mail as he should get it. Looked at, in the background of what he has painted to the Committee, one can only ... MR SIBANYONI: This working relationship between Lesotho Security Forces and the team of your unit, was it among others to give you easy operation, in other words that you could operate easily within the Lesotho territory? The objective was to cast suspicion on and disrupt activities of the Mass Democratic Movement who at the time protested against a tour of a World Rugby team in South Africa. Nobody was killed or injured. MR ZWANE: Once, after coming from prison, as I have stated to you that I was arrested in the process of the formation of the team. MR BIZOS: Page 22 - 23 Mr Chairman. The passage has no corrections by the Attorney's team Mr Chairman. MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA: So clearly you were not the person to head a team of people who were going to make an arrest in a crowd situation when you had no previous experience of crowd control? |
