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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 421 to 440 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 Next Page•Last PageMR HEWIT: You see what I am saying to you it looks like two of the members of the team which murdered Nate Gomede both have problems with motor vehicles and the police. So what I am suggesting to you was there ever any kind of criminal theft syndicate amongst those two? I am asking you do you know ... MS GCABASHE: This is where you've lost me. You see because I understand you to operate as a team but at the same time you talk about people visiting you to approve of what you're doing and then to go beyond Bree Street to other areas of operation which you not discussed before you had come to the ... MR VAN DER MERWE: There was also a branch National Interpretation which was established and senior representatives of the information community, the aim thereof was to get all the information that was gathered to evaluate the information, to interpret it and to convey that to the State Security ... Mr de Kock, you will recall that Mr McPherson drove the getaway car or he was at least part of the getaway team, along with Jimmy Taylor? DR RAMASHALA: Exactly when was this team, which was supposed to carry out this operation, exactly when were they briefed? MR VAN HEERDEN: Chairperson, if you say that I was aware that he was gone, I cannot say specifically because he wasn't a member of my team or the group that I worked with, there were various groups. So he may have been a member of another group which had been deployed and I simply accepted that he ... MR SIBEKO: And as part of the team, part of your team, Xolani was also instructed, given the same instructions that he's got to go along with you to try to get these drivers back into Polla Park? MR MATHEBULA: He was present in that interrogation team, but I don't as to whether he took part. ADV BEMBRIDGE: So, if I am understanding you correctly then, you were the person responsiblefor making sure that the team got to the attack and away from the attack safely,but you had no idea of where you were going or how to get away from there thereafter? "I was never in the same team at work with the applicant as he alleges during 1982 and 1988, I never worked with the applicant at the security branch and he was never a member of the security branch of Compol, Pretoria in 1987 during my employment there". CHAIRPERSON: You see I speak for myself. I find it strange that the PAC would arrange for this operation to take place and not to equip all its members of that team with arms so that they can successfully complete that operation. Have you got any comment about that? The second applicant Mr Mphoreng testified that at the time of the incident he was staying at one of the AZAPO hide out camps in Orlando East. He says that Jeff came to him early in the morning at about six (am) and told him that his house has been burnt. Other AZAPO members came and they ... ADV GCABASHE : Last question, were there black members of the Task Team with you, the Task Force with you? MR VISSER: You have paragraphs 25 to 28 of Exhibit F before you and you have studied this and this is also a reflection of the information that you gave to us as your legal team. Do you confirm the content of these paragraphs and your insight and political motive with regard to your participation ... This information was then passed to Colonel Joe Verster and he went with the team to Botswana where the house was identified. The Applicant stated that he knew that the information which he had disclosed to Mr Verster would be used for the purposes of an operation that was aimed at ... MS THABETHE: Thank you Mr Chair. I would like to draw the Committee to the papers in front of them. Yes, it is true as my learned colleague has conceived that the applicant is the only person who has testified, but we have papers in front of us. I will start with the issue which I think is ... MR VISSER: Mr Zeelie, it is not the duty of someone like Mr Van der Merwe to see to it that cases appear in court, that is the duty of the investigation team who investigates the case, isn't it? MR DU TOIT: Chairperson, I definitely did not know who the specific individual was, if they had mentioned a particular name to me at that point, it wouldn't really have meant much to me, other than the motivation and the fact that a decision had already been taken by a higher authority and by the ... MR SHAIK: That is the one yes. That was purely an administrative omission, either on my side or my legal team's side. It would be foolish of me or ridiculous of me to have tried avoiding that deliberately as out of 31 acts I omit one. I therefore ask you to take that into consideration in terms ... Good before I ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself and then also to tell us about your daughter, I would like to just read some of the context statement that has been prepared by your research team so that we understand what the context was and - at the time of your daughter's shooting. ... |
