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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 441 to 460 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 Next Page•Last PageDR RANDERA: The one other aspect, and I am sure our investigating team will have to make further enquiries, is that when you enquired at the police station in Thlabani, they actually had the name of your son in the book. That is what you say in your statement. I am asking this question because my ... So, it strikes me as being strange that there was a grenade and a fully operating grenade there. And in fact the question that comes to mind, is whether in fact it was a real and potent grenade. I am not sure how these things work, but I am just wondering if it was a potent grenade, given the ... MR POTGIETER: Thank you, you may be seated. Welcome to George as well. Mr Lizo, your evidence relates to two incidents. The first one concerns an incident which happened between 1986 and 1987 where you were arrested and tortured by the police, and the second incident relates to August 1993 when ... MR HLONGWANE: Yes, Zekele planned it and it came down to me and I took it to the rest of the team. He is applying for amnesty as an accessory after the fact and for defeating the ends of justice. He did not partake in the planning of this particular attack or took part in the execution of the murders. He was, however, aware that a murder was planned and visited the scene thereafter without ... ADV. MOTATA: Because if you take it a step further, that firstly at least assistance of a member of the ANC and we know the policy of the ANC didn't cover that and if there was a request, let's accept there was a request from Mabena, he had ample opportunity to look for his fellow PAC members and ... Before adjourning I’d just like to thank everybody for making this hearing possible. I’d like to thank the Municipality for making this very convenient and nice venue available to us for this hearing. The sound technicians who provide us with the sound system which is critical to the success of ... MR W H J COETZEE: The scope, I cannot recall the scope of it but all that I know is that afterwards the credibility was such that Langa shortly afterwards in person was met at a point in Soweto after which we acted against that person, arrested that person with eight limpet mines as well as ... The incident occurred while a team of Vlakplaas members was assisting the Nelspruit Security Branch. The team were led by Captain Baker and consisted further of Lieutenant Van Dyk, Sergeant Nofemela and Constable Nicholas Dube. Those who are working in our investigation team they will bring all the evidence that Sipho Madlala has brought forward. We will see if we can do something. And another thing that you've requested it's help about counselling, you need psychological help, counselling or therapy. Are you still ... MR VAN DER HEYDE: No Mr Chairperson, but I was also involved in the beginning when the TRC process started, to go to all the hostels and to do groundwork, to find out who of their people are in jail for political offences and we then as sort of a legal team, which involved Nel Kotze and van Dyk ... MR NGOBESE:: Yes, it is correct. He was telling the truth if that were the needs. If the needs of the team were not being fulfilled, I agree with him. We thank our Eastern Cape colleagues, Commissioner, Commissioner Bongani Finca and all his colleagues in this region for their very hard work, demonstrating that I head up a team of outstanding persons as Commissioners and Committee members, some of whom are here with me today. MR LAMEY: And from there then you made statements to the investigating team from the Attorney-General's office. Can you briefly tell the Committee what the circumstances were surrounding the signing of your initial amnesty application? How did this come about? MR BOTHA: Chairperson, it's my recollection that the rest of the team of askaris who rendered service in Durban spent their evenings there, but the smaller groups ... (indistinct) Mbane, Dube had indeed slept there. MR BOTHA: From the nearest house, yes. The specific place which we refer to, was a place which we have already pointed out to the Investigation Team here in Durban. It is two houses next to each other and the closest house from there, is about 300 metres. The applicant persuaded Colonel Ndzwayiba not to order the death of Mr Mbotoli by convincing him that the best course to follow would be to kidnap Mr. Mbotoli and take him to Transkei where he could then be de-briefed so as to furnish valuable intelligence which could be utilised by ... Last year was the first time I heard about a young boy. His name was Stompie Mokesi Siphe. He was 13 years old. He had an opinion, he fought for it and in doing so lost his life. He was against racism and wanted to be equal. That really made me think. He was so young, but at such a young age ... Mr Chairman, it is my submission that Mr Kloppers has made a full disclosure. He has been frank about the severety of the assault and the way in which it happened. Mr Chairman, I would submit that this assault, although very severe and reprehensible, if one approach, armchair approach to that, ... MR VISSER: You have missed something. Can you recall whether you made any false statements to that investigative team? |
