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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 461 to 480 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 Next Page•Last PageMR JANSEN: And some of the other applicants allege that you compiled this operational team or selected this operational team, can you please tell the Committee who exactly decided upon who the members of this particular operational team would be. You - you began to tell us a little bit about the fact this incident created quite a [indistinct] there in the press circles and so on. Why do you think that you were banned from coming to the press conferences, the court team - what happened? Our investigating team have been following up and getting the evidence that we need in order that we be able to make a finding and they have taken a statement from an eye witness in this incident. He is a person who is presently in prison, but the prison authorities have given permission for him ... MR VISSER: And did it occur to you that the investigation team was busy with a pretty thorough investigation? MR SIBANYONI: Were there any members, black members of the Vlakplaas team and/or askaris? And after there was a discussion, inmates agreed that okay, they will release the hostages and I proposed to the two leaders that we have to go back to the administrative block, brief the management about the grievances of inmates and hear what they are going to do to try and let us come nearer ... We will come back to you and to the guy you have mentioned, Monde, who was present when these things happened. Our investigating team will come back to you to get those details so that we can have some more information from you and from Monde. Thank you. "From discussions with director, Christo Davidson, it has been understood that his investigation gathered all so called log sheets from police casspirs country wide related to 17 June 1992. This was done by his team for them to be able to establish where the casspirs were positioned on the night ... CHAIRPERSON: So if you can please get together. Stage one, contact the dentist and he undoubtedly should be able to tell you over the telephone as to whether he's got any records relating to such a patient or not. If he has no records well that's an end to the matter. If he has records well then ... MR BELLINGAN: Mr Chairman, very likely this was would have been part of a cover story which I would have discussed in confidence with my legal team at the time. So aside from the fact that there's the item of privilege, it comes from my files. Now surely it can't be in the interest of justice for ... MR VLOK: Mr Chairperson, may I just explain once again. There were often congratulations given to people, because we were a team fighting a common enemy. MR SIBANYONI: Mr Rorich, I heard you referring to Mr Nofomela and Mr Bosigu as the two Askaris who backed your team, but my understanding is that at that stage they were constables, they were in the employ of the police, is that not correct? MR McBRIDE: Yes. Just to elaborate on the answer. I was asked this yesterday by I think, the Honourable Chairperson, and I indicated that the reason for instructing the legal team to ask this question was that already at that stage these were my instructions. My perception was that there would ... MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... In a second incident that involved yet another gang that terrorised and harassed the community, Mpele and others once again decided that they had had enough. This time this particular gang had robbed and killed a family of five who owned a tavern at Everest. Cosas members including Mpele, with ... The United Nations Transitional Assistance Team known as UNTAG, was from the 1st of April 1989 actively deployed inside the country occupying military bases and monitoring certain police activity. MR BOOYENS: Then just one further aspect, once again regarding the number of persons in the vehicle. A few moments ago you stated that there were approximately five, so is it possible that you may have told Mr de Kock and I assume as information became available on a consistent level, it was ... MR VAN DER MERWE: Your participation or role in this matter does concur with the previous witness, you do confirm that you were not part of the operation itself, but that you were part of the observation team and later on with the transportation of the members who executed the operation. That is ... MR LAMEY: And on this particular evening you were with the team under the leadership of Col de Kock and you went into Swaziland to search these premises. MR PRIOR: Mr Chairman, we are about to see video footage of the interior of the Tavern as taken by the Police team on the morning after the attack. What is being depicted is the front door of the Tavern. |
