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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 461 to 480 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 Next Page•Last PageThey then took me back to Vereeniging Police Station and at Vereeniging Police Station I asked the warder who had died? The next morning, Saturday morning he brought me a Citizen and I saw it was comrade Neil Agget. I didn’t know comrade Neil Agget at the time but reading the story of Neil Agget ... Initially I did not want to apply for amnesty because I felt I did not do anything wrong, but I was informed at some stage that a case of murder was investigated by the Attorney General's team. MR RUDOLPH: Chairperson, on the 17th of September 1990, I was arrested. This was after I was forced underground. I was detained in terms of Section 29 and any one who was detained under Section 29 will know how draconian this was. At the time of these events, after the video, after we compiled ... MR McBRIDE: Yes. Just to elaborate on the answer. I was asked this yesterday by I think, the Honourable Chairperson, and I indicated that the reason for instructing the legal team to ask this question was that already at that stage these were my instructions. My perception was that there would ... MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... MR VAN ECK: Mr Chairperson, I was the Chairperson of the Primary School Management team. Mr de Nysschen was the Vice Chairperson, our children went to school together and we became friends. It was in a school context. MR McINTYRE: Mr Chairperson, during a visit of the Investigative team of the TRC, they visited me, I think I assisted them in certain matters and I received this form from a member of the Investigative team and I filled in this form in Umtata, as best I could, and when I decided to contact a lawyer ... MR STRYDOM: Yes, that is indeed so, I think the letter is added to my - next to my heads of argument and Mr Khubeka's name was included there but unfortunately at that stage, the legal team was under the impression that he provided another application and he didn't want this legal team to act for ... It also gave short courses on how to plant limpet mines. Our specific target was an ANC terrorist, whose MK name was Pansu Smith, who operated from a house near Mbabane. The attack team was made up of members of Vlakplaas. We moved into Swaziland to organise the attack. MR MANTHATA: Perhaps what I can do would be to request you if you have anything or documentation, be it at home or with you here, that you leave them with us. Perhaps our investigating team can look into the matter, because it seems the matter that is so confused and yet it is so painful. I will ... MR GOVANSAMY: Chairperson, may I just add one thing? My name is Gary Govansamy. I was part of the team for my family, taking up the cudgels for them in this instance. I want to say that I understand the political process. I understand the whole question of reconciliation and truth. It has been ... MR WILLS: And he got involved in some brawl with certain people and then he came to pick his team up to assist him in that brawl? MR VISSER: Mr Zeelie, it is not the duty of someone like Mr Van der Merwe to see to it that cases appear in court, that is the duty of the investigation team who investigates the case, isn't it? I couldn’t afford to go to school because of the assaults, they were accusing me of something I didn’t do, some things like public violence at the age of 15. While my parents were so sickly the policemen use to come at home, but they couldn’t find me because I was a soccer player, I use to go out ... We then left that house because we were aware that he knew about it. From that day we learnt that other comrades such as Aron Matse, Team(?) and Desmond had been arrested and other comrades whose name I cannot recall now, but it was mostly the leadership of CYL who had been arrested. MR LEOPENG: Maybe with the leave of the Panel, can I ask you was Mr Fourie also part of your team who abducted - who spoke to Mr Sedibe at Piet Retief? CHAIRPERSON: Members of the IFP and the ANC do they play in the same team? Soccer? MR BELLINGAN: Mr Chairman, very likely this was would have been part of a cover story which I would have discussed in confidence with my legal team at the time. So aside from the fact that there's the item of privilege, it comes from my files. Now surely it can't be in the interest of justice for ... MR WILLEMSE: Chairperson, when I made this statement it was in front of the Investigating Team and there were so many parties on the farm that I can't really place this, why I specifically mentioned it. There was an incident one afternoon where I carried gravel to Vlakplaas and after which Colonel ... Mr Bester, when you say that Mr More was a member of the interrogation team and participated in the interrogation of Mr Lubane, are you saying that he would be present during the interrogation conducted by Capt Prinsloo, but wouldn't do anything, wouldn't put questions to Mr Lubane? |
