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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 481 to 500 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 Next Page•Last Page We will come back to you and to the guy you have mentioned, Monde, who was present when these things happened. Our investigating team will come back to you to get those details so that we can have some more information from you and from Monde. Thank you. MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... MR VISSER: You have paragraphs 25 to 28 of Exhibit F before you and you have studied this and this is also a reflection of the information that you gave to us as your legal team. Do you confirm the content of these paragraphs and your insight and political motive with regard to your participation ... MS THABETHE: Thank you Mr Chair. I would like to draw the Committee to the papers in front of them. Yes, it is true as my learned colleague has conceived that the applicant is the only person who has testified, but we have papers in front of us. I will start with the issue which I think is ... MR DU TOIT: Chairperson, I definitely did not know who the specific individual was, if they had mentioned a particular name to me at that point, it wouldn't really have meant much to me, other than the motivation and the fact that a decision had already been taken by a higher authority and by the ... MR VIKTOR: Chairperson, any one of us who was involved in this team did some reconnaissance and that is how we knew how to get to the particular houses. MR SIBANYONI: If you can still recall, was the team consisting of only white members, or were there both white and black members of the Special Forces? ADV GCABASHE : Last question, were there black members of the Task Team with you, the Task Force with you? CHAIRPERSON: You see I speak for myself. I find it strange that the PAC would arrange for this operation to take place and not to equip all its members of that team with arms so that they can successfully complete that operation. Have you got any comment about that? I was also team Rector of the parish of Wynberg which has five churches and on another occasion that is the 9th of June, I had eight members of staff with me, five clergy and three full time lay people. For example, at Enoni, there was a dog called Stoffel, which often bit detainees. Electric shocks and tubing were the order of the day. Jan Munnik, the former police reporting officer for Gauteng and his team found electric shock equipment at the back of the casper, as well as pieces of an inner ... This information was then passed to Colonel Joe Verster and he went with the team to Botswana where the house was identified. The Applicant stated that he knew that the information which he had disclosed to Mr Verster would be used for the purposes of an operation that was aimed at ... The second applicant Mr Mphoreng testified that at the time of the incident he was staying at one of the AZAPO hide out camps in Orlando East. He says that Jeff came to him early in the morning at about six (am) and told him that his house has been burnt. Other AZAPO members came and they ... Reconciliation Commission, the investigating team of the Attorney- DR RANDERA: And you said the first time you were given medical treatment was when the international team arrived, international doctors arrived. How long was that after you went to the island? I'm sorry to say this, I was also disappointed with the way the defence team carried on. We've lost lives here, I've lost my dear son and just because people don't want to come up with the truth, and we know very well that a helicopter was on the scene on that day. Even these guys who have come ... MR CORNELIUS: It is common cause that you and the whole team went to a specific bridge outside Nelspruit, this is near the Khanyamazaan Road? CHAIRPERSON: No, I understand that, but what is being put to you is - well it's not being disputed what he told you, or what you said that he told you, what is being put to you however, is that it is possible that he could have told you it was a farm or a place where firearms and so on and weapons ... The Truth and Reconciliation Commission has four regional offices, one in Cape Town, one in Durban the other in East London and the fourth in Gauteng. And each of them has a Commissioner as the convenor and for Western Cape/Northern Cape which includes the Southern Cape, the Commissioner convenor ... As I said, mentioned earlier, the Press, not the national, but even the international Press was there. There was American Press there, a team from the Bostonian Globe, I think, and the Chicago Tribunal or whatever it may be, was there as well. They took photos of this pig in my shop. This was the ... |
