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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 501 to 520 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: We thank the three of you for the testimony which you have come to give here. We will send our Investigative Team to you in Fort Beaufort to come and take more details as they are going to go and investigate the MR ROSSOUW: Just before we continue, the co-operation between yourself, a member of C2 to then join the operational team, C1, did this happen before at other opportunities? Have you worked with them before? MR ROSLEE: I did. I was part of his team. MR MALINDI: Thank you, Chairperson. It's Malindi, M-a-l-i-n-d-i, I represent the victims. I appear with my attorney, Mr Koopedi, who is not in at the moment but will be joining this team later during the course of the day. MR LAMEY: And from there then you made statements to the investigating team from the Attorney-General's office. Can you briefly tell the Committee what the circumstances were surrounding the signing of your initial amnesty application? How did this come about? MR DU TOIT: It is possible that I spoke to him, but I cannot recall that I said anything to him regarding a disguise or a beard or anything like that. Usually there were many people on such a scene and the first person that one would speak to would be the demolitions expert, who in this case was ... MR BOTHA: Chairperson, perhaps I could facilitate this for Mr Lalla. The Knoll was under observation, the house in Brickfield was under observation, many other houses were under observation, we were a core group of people who had knowledge, one of the activities of Vula and those people involved, ... MR CORNELIUS: Was there any reason for Mr de Kock and his team to doubt your information or doubt the target which you had identified? As the time went by we stayed at home. We did not isolate ourselves from the people, we were amongst the people in every activity in Cookhouse. I did not belong to any other member, but what, the organisation I belonged to was the Resident's Organisation. We were playing rugby together with the ... ADV DE JAGER: Could I say that in the past we had the Ngo matter where the Investigation Team couldn't find any documents and the private attorneys appearing for people got hold of those documents within three hours by going to the police station and asking for it, here in Mamelodi actually. MRS KOKI: There is the true ANC and the false ANC, because there are two sections of the ANC. These two sections, the other section, they do things which we don't understand. It is this section which used to use my child and use me, but they have severed relationships with me. But this other ... And since that time, when you came to tell us before, our investigating team have been working very hard to try and find out exactly what happened on that day. And we hope that today and tomorrow things will become more clear and you will have answers to some of the questions you have been asking ... Mrs Maurise and I spoke earlier and she said to me that she was not present when her son was shot and asked me to read the report by our investigating team and she will then tell the remainder of the story. I will read it in English but maybe Mrs Maurise can use the headphones to hear it in ... MR ERASMUS: He could possibly have been there because he was the head of the demolitions team. MR LEOPENG: Did you ask the team which abducted him from Swaziland how was his reaction when he was abducted, whether he fought with them, whether he resisted abduction? Under cross-examination, Brits revealed that during the criminal trial in which he testified as a State witness against De Kock, he was told by one Advocate Antoinette de Jager not to mention the murder of the deceased herein. He says at the time Ivor Human was part of the Attorney General's ... MR KENDALL: Much talk was heard of this. I was for example at Vlaklaagte where there was a shooting incident, where Mbukoto - or the information that was given to me, that it was a number of men who broke up a youth gathering and the shooting took place and some of the youths were killed, but I ... "The team was all present" MR SIBANYONI: If you can still recall, was the team consisting of only white members, or were there both white and black members of the Special Forces? The first Investigation Officer, a Warrant Officer Sipho Mbele, complained that the investigation was not conducted properly insofar as normal procedures and practices on the murder scene were roundly ignored, and his own investigation was interfered with by individuals in the Security Branch. He ... |
