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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 501 to 520 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 Next Page•Last PageMR VAN NIEKERK: Yes. When I arrived at the security branch in 1976 I was also part of a team who were involved with the investigation - in the investigation that started in June 1976. MR ERASMUS: We had placed - I had assembled a surveillance team and at an opportune moment when Mr and Mrs Berange left the premises, I used a skeleton key. It wasn't actually housebreaking in the sense that anything was broken, to obtain entry to the flat. I was accompanied by a very young ... "... it is an amnesty application which deals specifically with the incident which is referred to in the subpoena. In the amnesty application details are given with regard to that particular incident and the details which are given in our view, deal with the sort of information that we anticipate ... MS THABETHE: Okay, so now my understanding is Mr Mkhize is the one who kidnapped her. From the bundle again we've got evidence that Mr Mkhize was an IFP member, now my question is why do you think your girlfriend was abducted or was kidnapped by Mr Mkhize ...(indistinct) his team? MR RICHARD: You could see what the man was doing, he was working with the drilling machine and the drilling rig's team, they were busy tending to the machine. Did you find that suspicious? CHAIRPERSON: But would that be of assistance, I'm thinking aloud, that here we are dealing with what we term illegal operations and there has been cover-up. Whatever was investigated wouldn't bring out the true position. He may for instance say, I'm thinking aloud again, that I was part of the ... MR KGASI: Now tell me, at the time when you and other black members of this interrogating team left, did you see Mr Mngomezulu, tell us his state by then? MR MALAN: Now let me just ask you, at that time would the soccer team have members of the Amabuvo and the ANC in the same team? Would they play soccer together? CHAIRPERSON: Mr Vally, I just want to indicate that at some stage I need to get an indication from the Investigative Team through you, former Minister Roelf Meyer was mentioned here on two occasions at least in a manner that might lead to a finding to his detriment, and I just want to know from ... When we came out of the gate van der Berg who was in charge at that time would take the team out with our shoes. He beat me again on my face and I fell down but I got up again and followed the others. All day I was not able to really understand what was going on I was simply observing as I was ... Snyman testified that hew as suffering from a bad memory due to a post-traumatic stress disorder and that he could not as a matter of certainty say that he was the one from whom de Kock requested the limpet mine. His, Snyman's, decision to apply for amnesty in regard to this incident flowed from ... "At times they had to leave the country in order to participate in the ANC's negotiations team, then they would re-enter the country and conduct negotiations after which they would again leave the country legally and then re-enter illegally to continue with Operation Vula." MR VAN DER MERWE: Yes Mr Chairperson, thank you very much. I have been brought up to speed by the Evidence Leader. I have spoken to the legal team also representing the families and the victims. I've also had an opportunity to speak to the legal team representing the applicants. I have ... end up at that but also in his clear vision he appointed a chairperson whom he very carefully selected and I would like to commend the chairperson so selected by our president together with his team for the job they have done in conducting the hearings at this Truth and Reconciliation Commission so ... And therefore you gave up or the case was dismissed already. In your statement you said that you plead with the Truth Commission it must go further with this investigation. You are not happy. You want the truth to be revealed and you don’t like the manner in which your case was handled. We will ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Mr Visser. Mr Mapoma, may I just confirm that I believe you are part of the team that is representing the victims? MR PHOSA: Now, was he part of the team that interrogated Mr Mthimkhulu whilst he was in detention? I have prepared a full set of copies of the rectified heads of argument for all the members of the Panel as well as the legal team on the other side. They already have copies. MR ROSSOUW: The question whether it was an unlawful operation and the previous question as to whether it was just a small identified elite team who by themselves undertook to execute unlawful activities because they believed it would combat the liberation struggle. In the light of that, would you ... MR PRETORIUS: Physically I went with the team, I made the preparation as to how we will enter Botswana, where we will wait for Mr Lengene and how we will bring him back to the Republic. So I was part of the planning and of the seizing of Mr Lengene. |
