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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 521 to 540 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 Next Page•Last PageMR FUCHS: I think about two months ago when Mr Erwee came to me and said Tokkie, I have bad news for you. There is an investigating team and he mentioned the names of the members, Captain De Lange, Mr Ivor Human who were busy doing an investigation and that they had mentioned my name and said ... MR MAJUJA: Six months? Were you part of the team that was like, you know, checking on whether Zenzile was at home? MR VAN SCHALKWYK: You also have heard when my learned colleague, Mr Prior and Hugo referred to travelling documents which makes it quite clear that Mgade was not together with the team and he did not receive and S&T, so we accept the possibilities or the probabilities are that he was in fact not ... MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... MR RICHARD: And it is for the purpose of instilling that fear and terror that that device would have been exploded by your team. We will come back to you and to the guy you have mentioned, Monde, who was present when these things happened. Our investigating team will come back to you to get those details so that we can have some more information from you and from Monde. Thank you. The attack was carried out because Mr J.H. Cronje was identified as a legitimate target. The attackers were the Applicant and members of his unit, vs Kahitha Hani and Moeketsi Tchabedi. Their aim was to secure arms. The Applicant stated that he used to know the Cronje's farm very well ... It was that very, very difficult but let me deal with the work situation. On the second or so day on Robben Island in the Agricultural Team that was under the command of a man called Piet Kleynhans, I was one of those people who had to push a wheelbarrow and in pushing it because we were dumping ... owning this graveyard. Nobody informed us. Even today we cannot say where are those corpses. We are not even allowed to come nearby. The exhumed bodies were put together and we could not know where they were sent to. In our tradition we knew that it wasn't allowed, but we don't know where the ... DR RANDERA: Thank you Reverend Umbequa and Reverend Maklene. I would like to extend a warm welcome to all our witnesses who will be coming and, and talking this, this morning and this afternoon. I would also like to say that this is a Human Rights Violations hearing. It offers the opportunity ... Our team of investigators looked at this case and they tried to find out what they could regarding the court proceedings. Apparently there was an inquest, there was an inquest held at court and according to the report given to us by our investigators, none of the children who had allegedly ... GEN VAN DER MERWE: Mr Chairman I have already testified before the Amnesty Committee and before the Investigative team and I've confirmed that certain instructions were given with the approval of the Minister, I do not doubt that at all, he would have informed the State Security Council. ... MR ALBERTS: And were you then part of this team of vehicles, if I can call it that? MR PULE: I would explain it this way, although I will deviate from this point. For example when you play soccer, playing for a first division team and then you are recruited by another team in the first division, when you arrive at that team, that does not mean because you come from another team, ... MR VISSER: Were you one of the members of that team? Only a question in respect of the tapes. Did you read the transcript of Exhibit X1 and X2 before it was handed in by your legal team as exhibits? MR KOK: At that unit there were only four persons who worked in that unit and we usually worked in a team together, because everybody had a certain function to perform, so in that instance I would accept that it would only be the four of us. If ...(intervention) MR ALBERTS: And at the end of that month, which would be the beginning of December 1996, you were busy with your legal team in preparation of your application. MR MOOIJ: Can you tell the Committee, was there any visible evidence to you or to members of your investigation team which indicated how the money which the applicant told you he had received, how that had been spent? MR KNIGHT: Mr Chairman, if I might just add at this point, this statement that my learned colleague is reading from with regard to Mr Shabalala, Mr Shabalala never signed and denies ever having made, just for the Record. So I don’t, I just wanted to inform the Committee of that. It would come out ... |
