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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 521 to 540 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 Next Page•Last PageMS THABETHE: Thank you Mr Chair. I would like to draw the Committee to the papers in front of them. Yes, it is true as my learned colleague has conceived that the applicant is the only person who has testified, but we have papers in front of us. I will start with the issue which I think is ... MR NAIDOO: Were you the most junior member of the team that went to Mr Kunene's house on the fateful day? This is the situation that the fifth applicant found himself to be in at the time. He was a fairly newly appointed member of the Security Branch, he was a constable, he did not form part of the inner core of the investigation team. Mr Netshivale was not involved in any decision making, he was ... MR CORNELIUS: It is common cause that you and the whole team went to a specific bridge outside Nelspruit, this is near the Khanyamazaan Road? I'm sorry to say this, I was also disappointed with the way the defence team carried on. We've lost lives here, I've lost my dear son and just because people don't want to come up with the truth, and we know very well that a helicopter was on the scene on that day. Even these guys who have come ... CHAIRPERSON: No, I understand that, but what is being put to you is - well it's not being disputed what he told you, or what you said that he told you, what is being put to you however, is that it is possible that he could have told you it was a farm or a place where firearms and so on and weapons ... ADV DE JAGER: Not by your team? Two or three days after they had arrived at Josini, Mngomezulu was loaded onto Schoon's bakkie. He, Pienaar, Willemse, Van Dyk and Schoon left in two vehicles. He then already knew that Mngomezulu would be eliminated. They left for Sodwana and travelled south. They stopped. He recalls ... MR VISSER: You have paragraphs 25 to 28 of Exhibit F before you and you have studied this and this is also a reflection of the information that you gave to us as your legal team. Do you confirm the content of these paragraphs and your insight and political motive with regard to your participation ... DR RANDERA: And you said the first time you were given medical treatment was when the international team arrived, international doctors arrived. How long was that after you went to the island? WITNESS: My testimony in both languages, in some areas of the statement I will address myself in English, in some areas I will address in Xhosa. I do so because I believe in cases where one is emotional, you have to express yourself in your own language. Firstly, let me indicate that I am not ... MR MANTHATA: Perhaps what I can do would be to request you if you have anything or documentation, be it at home or with you here, that you leave them with us. Perhaps our investigating team can look into the matter, because it seems the matter that is so confused and yet it is so painful. I will ... We then left that house because we were aware that he knew about it. From that day we learnt that other comrades such as Aron Matse, Team(?) and Desmond had been arrested and other comrades whose name I cannot recall now, but it was mostly the leadership of CYL who had been arrested. The attack was carried out because Mr J.H. Cronje was identified as a legitimate target. The attackers were the Applicant and members of his unit, vs Kahitha Hani and Moeketsi Tchabedi. Their aim was to secure arms. The Applicant stated that he used to know the Cronje's farm very well ... Snyman testified that hew as suffering from a bad memory due to a post-traumatic stress disorder and that he could not as a matter of certainty say that he was the one from whom de Kock requested the limpet mine. His, Snyman's, decision to apply for amnesty in regard to this incident flowed from ... CHAIRPERSON: Mr Vally, I just want to indicate that at some stage I need to get an indication from the Investigative Team through you, former Minister Roelf Meyer was mentioned here on two occasions at least in a manner that might lead to a finding to his detriment, and I just want to know from ... "At times they had to leave the country in order to participate in the ANC's negotiations team, then they would re-enter the country and conduct negotiations after which they would again leave the country legally and then re-enter illegally to continue with Operation Vula." MR VAN DER MERWE: Yes Mr Chairperson, thank you very much. I have been brought up to speed by the Evidence Leader. I have spoken to the legal team also representing the families and the victims. I've also had an opportunity to speak to the legal team representing the applicants. I have ... MR PRETORIUS: Physically I went with the team, I made the preparation as to how we will enter Botswana, where we will wait for Mr Lengene and how we will bring him back to the Republic. So I was part of the planning and of the seizing of Mr Lengene. When we came out of the gate van der Berg who was in charge at that time would take the team out with our shoes. He beat me again on my face and I fell down but I got up again and followed the others. All day I was not able to really understand what was going on I was simply observing as I was ... |
