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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 521 to 540 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 Next Page•Last PageMR MAJUJA: Six months? Were you part of the team that was like, you know, checking on whether Zenzile was at home? GEN VAN DER MERWE: Mr Chairman I have already testified before the Amnesty Committee and before the Investigative team and I've confirmed that certain instructions were given with the approval of the Minister, I do not doubt that at all, he would have informed the State Security Council. ... Our team of investigators looked at this case and they tried to find out what they could regarding the court proceedings. Apparently there was an inquest, there was an inquest held at court and according to the report given to us by our investigators, none of the children who had allegedly ... It was that very, very difficult but let me deal with the work situation. On the second or so day on Robben Island in the Agricultural Team that was under the command of a man called Piet Kleynhans, I was one of those people who had to push a wheelbarrow and in pushing it because we were dumping ... The attack was carried out because Mr J.H. Cronje was identified as a legitimate target. The attackers were the Applicant and members of his unit, vs Kahitha Hani and Moeketsi Tchabedi. Their aim was to secure arms. The Applicant stated that he used to know the Cronje's farm very well ... And having regard to the fact that I was in a prison cell and completely in the dark as to what was going on, the fact that I needed to get information, the fact that I needed to give information in order to keep my credibility as it were, with the TRC Investigating Team at the time. I mean I ... DR RANDERA: Thank you Reverend Umbequa and Reverend Maklene. I would like to extend a warm welcome to all our witnesses who will be coming and, and talking this, this morning and this afternoon. I would also like to say that this is a Human Rights Violations hearing. It offers the opportunity ... owning this graveyard. Nobody informed us. Even today we cannot say where are those corpses. We are not even allowed to come nearby. The exhumed bodies were put together and we could not know where they were sent to. In our tradition we knew that it wasn't allowed, but we don't know where the ... MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... MR RICHARD: And it is for the purpose of instilling that fear and terror that that device would have been exploded by your team. MS MAKHUBELE: In a request for further particulars from the Investigation Team, you were asked to give names, full names of Fanie. Do you know his real names or his whereabouts? MR FUCHS: I think about two months ago when Mr Erwee came to me and said Tokkie, I have bad news for you. There is an investigating team and he mentioned the names of the members, Captain De Lange, Mr Ivor Human who were busy doing an investigation and that they had mentioned my name and said ... MR SWANEPOEL: Yes, could you look at paragraph 5 of Exhibit E1 that was handed to the Committee. I know you don't read Afrikaans, but I will roughly translate it for you. That was the deposition made by yourself to the Investigating Team of the Attorney General's office some nine months after you ... During 1990 the Applicant received a cache of arms from his commander Eugene de Kock together with a number of his colleagues. They were told to conceal the arms for possible further use in the event of future Nuremberg trials. He transported the arms to his house but after his arrest in ... MR VALLY: It was given to you, I believe, not to you Gen Neethling, but to your legal team. The people who were assembled there were referred to as a team and amongst them were those who were called the PAC team, you have the ANC team because they were specialists in torturing and in dealing with members of the different organizations, particularly members of the PAC as it was facing us ... MR KNIGHT: Mr Chairman, if I might just add at this point, this statement that my learned colleague is reading from with regard to Mr Shabalala, Mr Shabalala never signed and denies ever having made, just for the Record. So I don’t, I just wanted to inform the Committee of that. It would come out ... Only a question in respect of the tapes. Did you read the transcript of Exhibit X1 and X2 before it was handed in by your legal team as exhibits? MS PATEL: But they were invited to this party, not so as part of the membership to the soccer team that Mr Magubane was in charge of? MR MALAN: So in your mind you have no doubt that was a collating between Imbokhoto and the KwaNdebele police? Collusion, they were one and the same team? You have no doubt in your mind about that? |
