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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 541 to 560 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last PageMR SHAIK: That is the one yes. That was purely an administrative omission, either on my side or my legal team's side. It would be foolish of me or ridiculous of me to have tried avoiding that deliberately as out of 31 acts I omit one. I therefore ask you to take that into consideration in terms ... We then left that house because we were aware that he knew about it. From that day we learnt that other comrades such as Aron Matse, Team(?) and Desmond had been arrested and other comrades whose name I cannot recall now, but it was mostly the leadership of CYL who had been arrested. MR GOVANSAMY: Chairperson, may I just add one thing? My name is Gary Govansamy. I was part of the team for my family, taking up the cudgels for them in this instance. I want to say that I understand the political process. I understand the whole question of reconciliation and truth. It has been ... MR STANDER: Just allow me, because you have pertinently asked me - I am going to haste to say that it is highly improbable that there was a so-called sticker on that wall while we have had evidence here referring to the attempts by police officers not to propagate assaults or allow it, and that the ... Reconciliation Commission, the investigating team of the Attorney- ADV GCABASHE : Last question, were there black members of the Task Team with you, the Task Force with you? MS THABETHE: Thank you Mr Chair. I would like to draw the Committee to the papers in front of them. Yes, it is true as my learned colleague has conceived that the applicant is the only person who has testified, but we have papers in front of us. I will start with the issue which I think is ... Two or three days after they had arrived at Josini, Mngomezulu was loaded onto Schoon's bakkie. He, Pienaar, Willemse, Van Dyk and Schoon left in two vehicles. He then already knew that Mngomezulu would be eliminated. They left for Sodwana and travelled south. They stopped. He recalls ... MR MANTHATA: Perhaps what I can do would be to request you if you have anything or documentation, be it at home or with you here, that you leave them with us. Perhaps our investigating team can look into the matter, because it seems the matter that is so confused and yet it is so painful. I will ... ADV DE JAGER: Not by your team? This is the situation that the fifth applicant found himself to be in at the time. He was a fairly newly appointed member of the Security Branch, he was a constable, he did not form part of the inner core of the investigation team. Mr Netshivale was not involved in any decision making, he was ... MR NAIDOO: Were you the most junior member of the team that went to Mr Kunene's house on the fateful day? WITNESS: My testimony in both languages, in some areas of the statement I will address myself in English, in some areas I will address in Xhosa. I do so because I believe in cases where one is emotional, you have to express yourself in your own language. Firstly, let me indicate that I am not ... DR RANDERA: And you said the first time you were given medical treatment was when the international team arrived, international doctors arrived. How long was that after you went to the island? MR VISSER: You have paragraphs 25 to 28 of Exhibit F before you and you have studied this and this is also a reflection of the information that you gave to us as your legal team. Do you confirm the content of these paragraphs and your insight and political motive with regard to your participation ... MR DU TOIT: Chairperson, I definitely did not know who the specific individual was, if they had mentioned a particular name to me at that point, it wouldn't really have meant much to me, other than the motivation and the fact that a decision had already been taken by a higher authority and by the ... MR VIKTOR: Chairperson, any one of us who was involved in this team did some reconnaissance and that is how we knew how to get to the particular houses. MR SIBANYONI: If you can still recall, was the team consisting of only white members, or were there both white and black members of the Special Forces? MR LEOPENG: Maybe with the leave of the Panel, can I ask you was Mr Fourie also part of your team who abducted - who spoke to Mr Sedibe at Piet Retief? Mr Bester, when you say that Mr More was a member of the interrogation team and participated in the interrogation of Mr Lubane, are you saying that he would be present during the interrogation conducted by Capt Prinsloo, but wouldn't do anything, wouldn't put questions to Mr Lubane? |
