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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 581 to 600 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageMR VAN DER MERWE: Yes Mr Chairperson, thank you very much. I have been brought up to speed by the Evidence Leader. I have spoken to the legal team also representing the families and the victims. I've also had an opportunity to speak to the legal team representing the applicants. I have ... CHAIRPERSON: And I think also the point that you raised earlier which one would have to consider, you know, about you saying that these repossession units were specialised units and if there was a shortage they would draw on the task team who were also trained people. It's probably to avoid the ... MR KOTZE: My recollection of the surveillance is that I remained on the ground floor and since we were a very small team, I never moved very far from the, if I remember correctly, the set of glass doors on the eastern side of the building. We left it to Mr de Kock to go in deeper and survey the ... ADV BOSMAN: Were you present at the meeting on the 3rd of January where the decision was taken that the members of the team and the supporters of the team should be attacked when you came across them? MR PRETORIUS: Physically I went with the team, I made the preparation as to how we will enter Botswana, where we will wait for Mr Lengene and how we will bring him back to the Republic. So I was part of the planning and of the seizing of Mr Lengene. As far as the other two applicants are concerned that I represent, which is Mr Bellingan and Mr Tait, I would submit that they were, to you Mr Chairperson, that Mr Bellingan was part of the logistics component of this operation. The evidence is clear that he never entered the building, he ... CHAIRPERSON: But would that be of assistance, I'm thinking aloud, that here we are dealing with what we term illegal operations and there has been cover-up. Whatever was investigated wouldn't bring out the true position. He may for instance say, I'm thinking aloud again, that I was part of the ... MR RICHARD: You could see what the man was doing, he was working with the drilling machine and the drilling rig's team, they were busy tending to the machine. Did you find that suspicious? MR ERASMUS: We had placed - I had assembled a surveillance team and at an opportune moment when Mr and Mrs Berange left the premises, I used a skeleton key. It wasn't actually housebreaking in the sense that anything was broken, to obtain entry to the flat. I was accompanied by a very young ... dead there. I could have requested the police's Special Task Team and the Defence actually shot by the policeman. He was shot by a police. There was actually a team from Middelburg coming for a soccer play. Then there was trouble between the two teams. As a person from that area and some of the comrades they went out to go and call other comrades. Anyone who was just a boy ... MS THABETHE: Okay, so now my understanding is Mr Mkhize is the one who kidnapped her. From the bundle again we've got evidence that Mr Mkhize was an IFP member, now my question is why do you think your girlfriend was abducted or was kidnapped by Mr Mkhize ...(indistinct) his team? "... it is an amnesty application which deals specifically with the incident which is referred to in the subpoena. In the amnesty application details are given with regard to that particular incident and the details which are given in our view, deal with the sort of information that we anticipate ... The application arises out of an incident which occurred at Ndwendwe on the 23rd of March 1990 when the applicant, in concert with Mduduzi Desmond Mbhele; Lucky James Hlengwa; Sibusiso Patrick Thembe and Dumisani Ernest Dlamini robbed a pension team, escorted by police, which was to pay out ... MR STEENKAMP: Only my last question to you. I understand that you were a very good rugby player in the Wesselsbron rugby team. Is that correct? MR RAHANTLANE: Mr Malindi this to my team members because they were the first to hear that I was attacked and I related it to my relatives and friends. MR FLORES: Chairperson, at that stage, as I have answered previously, I placed Mr Venter there because some of the people had to drive from the farm, that would be Vlakplaas, Chairperson, on their way to Island Rock for the team-building effort, as was mentioned before and as Mr Martinus Ras had ... MR POTGIETER: Thank you to both of you. Mr Jacobs, thank you very much. It is a very painful situation, a very painful thing to lose a son and a brother. As you said, you raised him and you lost him. He died under very strange circumstances and there was no satisfactory explanation for his ... The important targets which are important in regaining control. From Special Forces a team was sent out to the Security Police in Northern Transvaal and one was sent to the Security Police in the Witwatersrand command. Together they had to plan to devise our cooperation or support of the police, ... CHAIRPERSON: They worked as a team. |