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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 581 to 600 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageMR KOHL: Yes the SRC, sorry. He was a soccer player. He played first team for Mary Waters, and that was under the sports master Mr James Hiller at Mary Waters. That is probably three or four forests alone. In addition, the court view hours of video footage shot by numerous journalists and also filmed by the SABC and the South African Police video team. MR SONO: They never played soccer, he was just playing (indistinct), I never saw him play for that team. Why I say that is because the very boys, when they approached my neighbour, Mr Shabalala, they said to him they are from the Mandela Football Club and they were looking for Lolo and Sibonisa. ... I taught at an all-Indian school and had no white friends. I became ecstatic whenever a black boxer knocked a white boxer down, or when the South African rugby team lost its rebel tour matches. This anti-white obsession grew, and I would dream about burning down white businesses and farms, but it ... Mr Chairman, it is my submission that Mr Kloppers has made a full disclosure. He has been frank about the severety of the assault and the way in which it happened. Mr Chairman, I would submit that this assault, although very severe and reprehensible, if one approach, armchair approach to that, ... MR CORNELIUS: Was there any reason for Mr de Kock and his team to doubt your information or doubt the target which you had identified? MR DU TOIT: It is possible that I spoke to him, but I cannot recall that I said anything to him regarding a disguise or a beard or anything like that. Usually there were many people on such a scene and the first person that one would speak to would be the demolitions expert, who in this case was ... MR LAMEY: And from there then you made statements to the investigating team from the Attorney-General's office. Can you briefly tell the Committee what the circumstances were surrounding the signing of your initial amnesty application? How did this come about? MR ROSSOUW: Just before we continue, the co-operation between yourself, a member of C2 to then join the operational team, C1, did this happen before at other opportunities? Have you worked with them before? We thank our Eastern Cape colleagues, Commissioner, Commissioner Bongani Finca and all his colleagues in this region for their very hard work, demonstrating that I head up a team of outstanding persons as Commissioners and Committee members, some of whom are here with me today. MR POTGIETER: Thank you, you may be seated. Welcome to George as well. Mr Lizo, your evidence relates to two incidents. The first one concerns an incident which happened between 1986 and 1987 where you were arrested and tortured by the police, and the second incident relates to August 1993 when ... MR PIENAAR: I can only start, Chairperson, by saying that I did not have any knowledge beforehand of this operation that was executed by Capt van Dyk and his team. One morning he approached me in my office and informed me that he had a man at Moolman that was brought from Swaziland, and if I would ... MR BOTHA: Col de Kock told us that Mr Baker would take over the operation and that me, Wouter Mentz, Rian Bellingan and Baker himself would form the team who would undertake the work. ADV GCABASHE: In relation to the 31st August which is the day that the Vlakplaas team successfully completed this operation, in relation to that when did you see General Erasmus, one week, one month, two months before? MR HATTINGH: In Denmark you were represented by various members of an Investigative Team which included Dr D'Oliviera, the then Attorney General for Transvaal as well as people like Adv Pretorius and Adv Ackerman and so forth? MR BOSCH: I received my instructions from Mr de Kock, he told me to reserve places in Richards Bay for the whole team. We were then to travel down before the time, me, Vermeulen and Botha and then create an alibi there so that if any queries were ever made we could say that they were somewhere in ... MR WASSERMAN: The instruction was to - well there was a bit of pandemonium when the message was that they had left and we were not, we went to great pains to make sure that we could catch up with the vehicle, so that we could inform the team what was happening. Those who are working in our investigation team they will bring all the evidence that Sipho Madlala has brought forward. We will see if we can do something. And another thing that you've requested it's help about counselling, you need psychological help, counselling or therapy. Are you still ... The incident occurred while a team of Vlakplaas members was assisting the Nelspruit Security Branch. The team were led by Captain Baker and consisted further of Lieutenant Van Dyk, Sergeant Nofemela and Constable Nicholas Dube. MR MOOIJ: Can you tell the Committee, was there any visible evidence to you or to members of your investigation team which indicated how the money which the applicant told you he had received, how that had been spent? |
