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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 581 to 600 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageMR BELLINGAN: The difference being Mr Chairman, that Dr D'Oliveira's team must be factored into this equation too. They were asking me questions too and the NUMSA stuff was pretty much well known by then, it must have been fairly obvious even in court. A certain team was elected from the Security Police and some members from other units, compiling the team who was going to be in charge of this, look for the people who were planning to overthrow the government. I was one of the members of the team. MR LOOTS: Right at the beginning, when Capt Hechter and Paul van Vuuren started with this operation for which they have applied for amnesty, I was not in the office at that stage, or I was not in the capacity of the Commander of the Black Power, I was part of a Special Investigative Team in the ... MR MANDLAZI: I was based in Mozambique, Maputo, as a reporting officer there and I was responsible for a safe house where we used to keep our comrades who were either going home or those who were coming back from home and of course this safe house was our - that is, the department of intelligence ... MR JANSEN: And some of the other applicants allege that you compiled this operational team or selected this operational team, can you please tell the Committee who exactly decided upon who the members of this particular operational team would be. MR VISSER: And did it occur to you that the investigation team was busy with a pretty thorough investigation? MR STRYDOM: Yes, that is indeed so, I think the letter is added to my - next to my heads of argument and Mr Khubeka's name was included there but unfortunately at that stage, the legal team was under the impression that he provided another application and he didn't want this legal team to act for ... Van Vuuren testified that he had been involved with Hechter in more than three hundred incidents and had a vague recollection of what happened in the Brown, Ramakobye and Modimeng incidents. He states that because he was present when Pretorius testified, he was able to have some recollection ... It also gave short courses on how to plant limpet mines. Our specific target was an ANC terrorist, whose MK name was Pansu Smith, who operated from a house near Mbabane. The attack team was made up of members of Vlakplaas. We moved into Swaziland to organise the attack. CHAIRPERSON: Members of the IFP and the ANC do they play in the same team? Soccer? MR BELLINGAN: Mr Chairman, very likely this was would have been part of a cover story which I would have discussed in confidence with my legal team at the time. So aside from the fact that there's the item of privilege, it comes from my files. Now surely it can't be in the interest of justice for ... At the time of the occurrence of this incident in Clermont, Khumalo claims that he was a political activist and a supporter of the United Democratic Front ("UDF"), the internal wing of the ANC. He states that there was widespread political unrest in the black township of Clermont and ... They then took me back to Vereeniging Police Station and at Vereeniging Police Station I asked the warder who had died? The next morning, Saturday morning he brought me a Citizen and I saw it was comrade Neil Agget. I didn’t know comrade Neil Agget at the time but reading the story of Neil Agget ... MRS MARCH: Ja, I went to hospital to visit him. By then he could still talk. When I asked him what happened he told me that he was shot at by the police and I asked him why, what was the problem. Then his answer was that don't you worry, a day will come for them. What he wanted to know was to ... burning of the shop is clearly indicated that I became financially bankrupt. Even today I have nothing. Even if I could take it further to the lawyers and attorneys. All those who were investigating, they say those people whom you suspect they say they are innocent. Until now that I get the correct ... After having supper with the family I then decided to visit one of my team mates who stays one street from me in Alexandra Location. It was still early in the emergency time. I thought that I won't waste time at his place and be as quick as possible. I managed to arrive there and chat football ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Mr Van Wyk and your team. I think the deputy Chairperson took all the words out of my mouth that I was going to actually add to our appreciation of what you've done today. MR WILLEMSE: Chairperson, when I made this statement it was in front of the Investigating Team and there were so many parties on the farm that I can't really place this, why I specifically mentioned it. There was an incident one afternoon where I carried gravel to Vlakplaas and after which Colonel ... Mr Bester, when you say that Mr More was a member of the interrogation team and participated in the interrogation of Mr Lubane, are you saying that he would be present during the interrogation conducted by Capt Prinsloo, but wouldn't do anything, wouldn't put questions to Mr Lubane? CHAIRPERSON: We thank the three of you for the testimony which you have come to give here. We will send our Investigative Team to you in Fort Beaufort to come and take more details as they are going to go and investigate the |
