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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 581 to 600 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last PageIt was that very, very difficult but let me deal with the work situation. On the second or so day on Robben Island in the Agricultural Team that was under the command of a man called Piet Kleynhans, I was one of those people who had to push a wheelbarrow and in pushing it because we were dumping ... The attack was carried out because Mr J.H. Cronje was identified as a legitimate target. The attackers were the Applicant and members of his unit, vs Kahitha Hani and Moeketsi Tchabedi. Their aim was to secure arms. The Applicant stated that he used to know the Cronje's farm very well ... MR VAN SCHALKWYK: You also have heard when my learned colleague, Mr Prior and Hugo referred to travelling documents which makes it quite clear that Mgade was not together with the team and he did not receive and S&T, so we accept the possibilities or the probabilities are that he was in fact not ... MR MAJUJA: Six months? Were you part of the team that was like, you know, checking on whether Zenzile was at home? MR McBRIDE: Yes. Just to elaborate on the answer. I was asked this yesterday by I think, the Honourable Chairperson, and I indicated that the reason for instructing the legal team to ask this question was that already at that stage these were my instructions. My perception was that there would ... MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... MR SIBANYONI: If you can still recall, was the team consisting of only white members, or were there both white and black members of the Special Forces? MR VIKTOR: Chairperson, any one of us who was involved in this team did some reconnaissance and that is how we knew how to get to the particular houses. Reconciliation Commission, the investigating team of the Attorney- MR SHAIK: That is the one yes. That was purely an administrative omission, either on my side or my legal team's side. It would be foolish of me or ridiculous of me to have tried avoiding that deliberately as out of 31 acts I omit one. I therefore ask you to take that into consideration in terms ... Good before I ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself and then also to tell us about your daughter, I would like to just read some of the context statement that has been prepared by your research team so that we understand what the context was and - at the time of your daughter's shooting. ... MR DU TOIT: Chairperson, I definitely did not know who the specific individual was, if they had mentioned a particular name to me at that point, it wouldn't really have meant much to me, other than the motivation and the fact that a decision had already been taken by a higher authority and by the ... MR VISSER: You have paragraphs 25 to 28 of Exhibit F before you and you have studied this and this is also a reflection of the information that you gave to us as your legal team. Do you confirm the content of these paragraphs and your insight and political motive with regard to your participation ... The second applicant Mr Mphoreng testified that at the time of the incident he was staying at one of the AZAPO hide out camps in Orlando East. He says that Jeff came to him early in the morning at about six (am) and told him that his house has been burnt. Other AZAPO members came and they ... CHAIRPERSON: You see I speak for myself. I find it strange that the PAC would arrange for this operation to take place and not to equip all its members of that team with arms so that they can successfully complete that operation. Have you got any comment about that? ADV GCABASHE : Last question, were there black members of the Task Team with you, the Task Force with you? MS THABETHE: Thank you Mr Chair. I would like to draw the Committee to the papers in front of them. Yes, it is true as my learned colleague has conceived that the applicant is the only person who has testified, but we have papers in front of us. I will start with the issue which I think is ... I was also team Rector of the parish of Wynberg which has five churches and on another occasion that is the 9th of June, I had eight members of staff with me, five clergy and three full time lay people. MR MANTHATA: Perhaps what I can do would be to request you if you have anything or documentation, be it at home or with you here, that you leave them with us. Perhaps our investigating team can look into the matter, because it seems the matter that is so confused and yet it is so painful. I will ... MR MALINDI: Thank you, Chairperson. It's Malindi, M-a-l-i-n-d-i, I represent the victims. I appear with my attorney, Mr Koopedi, who is not in at the moment but will be joining this team later during the course of the day. |
