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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 601 to 620 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 Next Page•Last PageADV BOSMAN: Were you present at the meeting on the 3rd of January where the decision was taken that the members of the team and the supporters of the team should be attacked when you came across them? We understand your pain, but we ask that you try to control yourself. So that even when we ask our investigation team to find - to find out what happened, we as the Truth Commission would like to reach a place where there can be peace and forgiveness. They took me back home. They took me home them. When they arrived at home the four men came out. The one with the balaclava, it looked like he was relative to Piet Ntolie and Louis Jonda and Mr Mabena. They accompanied me to the house having guns in their hands. My father was still alive ... Now for Special Forces and Parabat Forces and the Police Services it was very clear that there would be a need of a specially trained medical component which would have the same capabilities, in other words would be able to also be dropped by air, or to take part in small team operations or ... MR KOTZE: My recollection of the surveillance is that I remained on the ground floor and since we were a very small team, I never moved very far from the, if I remember correctly, the set of glass doors on the eastern side of the building. We left it to Mr de Kock to go in deeper and survey the ... CHAIRPERSON: And I think also the point that you raised earlier which one would have to consider, you know, about you saying that these repossession units were specialised units and if there was a shortage they would draw on the task team who were also trained people. It's probably to avoid the ... The Applicant testified that he did not know why K B Magubane killed Black. He had only heard that the previous day there had been a party at Mr Magubane's place. The Chonco boys had also been invited to the party because Mr Magubane had a soccer team and some of the Chonco boys were soccer ... He has asked me to put on record that his prepared to meet the applicants as well as their co-ordinator or leader, Mr Duma Nkosi. A meeting has been scheduled between Mr Duma Nkosi, the applicants and their legal team. CHAIRPERSON: But wouldn't you infer from Mr Mathebula, who was not part of the interrogating team and he has already conceded that it was Mr Prinsloo's style to do this interrogation all by himself, and not involve other people, wouldn't you infer that what he means by interrogation is maybe the ... MR VAN DER MERWE: Yes Mr Chairperson, thank you very much. I have been brought up to speed by the Evidence Leader. I have spoken to the legal team also representing the families and the victims. I've also had an opportunity to speak to the legal team representing the applicants. I have ... DR VAN RENSBURG: I obviously personally didn't know any, I did meet one. At one stage round about 1989 the Managing Director Swanepoel, organised a team building session weekend at a camp, on a farm in Heidelberg. (Inaudible) ... you are, your age, your family, and also yourpolitical affiliation if there is any. --- I am the son to Mrs Disebo Rataba,Madisebo Rataba. My father passed away. We are 10 at home. I am the eighth child.I am one of the persons who also got injured, or who got involved with ... MR B WILLIAMS: In your own opinion, Mr Mbelo, and judging by the instruction that had been given to you and in view of the fact that most of the deceased in this matter have serious injuries to their heads, would you agree that the inference is almost inescapable that they were meant to be killed? ... INSP. DE LA REY: Chairperson, the investigation team was consisting of myself, members of the Murder and Robbery Unit in Bloemfontein as well as members of Murder and Robbery Unit in Welkom. CHAIRMAN: Mr Mpshe apart from just the members of the Committee who are prepared to listen we may be inconveniencing others who are in the support team that runs this meeting, and I think it is now 4:30. It is beyond our normal time, and I think if it not going to be too inconvenient we should ... I’d like to thank the members of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission staff who have preparing here, the statements takers who have been here in advance, for all the team under our logistics officer, Gail van Breda, I am not sure she is in the hall at the moment and all the team that have worked ... MR MALAN: So in your mind you have no doubt that was a collating between Imbokhoto and the KwaNdebele police? Collusion, they were one and the same team? You have no doubt in your mind about that? MR LESHABA: No, he was no longer burning by then, he was simply lying down and he was powerless because of the stones which pelted him. In answering those questions as to how he practised witchcraft and as to with whom did he practice witchcraft, he said: "I have got a team of people with whom I ... MR ALBERTS: And at the end of that month, which would be the beginning of December 1996, you were busy with your legal team in preparation of your application. MR KNIGHT: Mr Chairman, if I might just add at this point, this statement that my learned colleague is reading from with regard to Mr Shabalala, Mr Shabalala never signed and denies ever having made, just for the Record. So I don’t, I just wanted to inform the Committee of that. It would come out ... |
