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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 621 to 640 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last Page Mr Berger, I understand that the team is expanding. Would you for the record just place Mr Malindi on record? And having regard to the fact that I was in a prison cell and completely in the dark as to what was going on, the fact that I needed to get information, the fact that I needed to give information in order to keep my credibility as it were, with the TRC Investigating Team at the time. I mean I ... MR JANSEN: And some of the other applicants allege that you compiled this operational team or selected this operational team, can you please tell the Committee who exactly decided upon who the members of this particular operational team would be. MR VLOK: Mr Chairperson, may I just explain once again. There were often congratulations given to people, because we were a team fighting a common enemy. MR VAN DER BERG: Because, you see, if the AWB came to Bophuthatswana on the invitation of the government, surely they would have formed part of the same team. In other words the AWB comes there on invitation of the government and of course they all form part of the same team, they’ll strive for ... MR RUDOLPH: Chairperson, on the 17th of September 1990, I was arrested. This was after I was forced underground. I was detained in terms of Section 29 and any one who was detained under Section 29 will know how draconian this was. At the time of these events, after the video, after we compiled ... Initially I did not want to apply for amnesty because I felt I did not do anything wrong, but I was informed at some stage that a case of murder was investigated by the Attorney General's team. MRS MARCH: Ja, I went to hospital to visit him. By then he could still talk. When I asked him what happened he told me that he was shot at by the police and I asked him why, what was the problem. Then his answer was that don't you worry, a day will come for them. What he wanted to know was to ... burning of the shop is clearly indicated that I became financially bankrupt. Even today I have nothing. Even if I could take it further to the lawyers and attorneys. All those who were investigating, they say those people whom you suspect they say they are innocent. Until now that I get the correct ... MR McINTYRE: Mr Chairperson, during a visit of the Investigative team of the TRC, they visited me, I think I assisted them in certain matters and I received this form from a member of the Investigative team and I filled in this form in Umtata, as best I could, and when I decided to contact a lawyer ... MR VAN DER MERWE: Your participation or role in this matter does concur with the previous witness, you do confirm that you were not part of the operation itself, but that you were part of the observation team and later on with the transportation of the members who executed the operation. That is ... MR SIBANYONI: Mr Rorich, I heard you referring to Mr Nofomela and Mr Bosigu as the two Askaris who backed your team, but my understanding is that at that stage they were constables, they were in the employ of the police, is that not correct? "From discussions with director, Christo Davidson, it has been understood that his investigation gathered all so called log sheets from police casspirs country wide related to 17 June 1992. This was done by his team for them to be able to establish where the casspirs were positioned on the night ... CHAIRPERSON: So if you can please get together. Stage one, contact the dentist and he undoubtedly should be able to tell you over the telephone as to whether he's got any records relating to such a patient or not. If he has no records well that's an end to the matter. If he has records well then ... MR BOOYENS: Then just one further aspect, once again regarding the number of persons in the vehicle. A few moments ago you stated that there were approximately five, so is it possible that you may have told Mr de Kock and I assume as information became available on a consistent level, it was ... MR VIKTOR: Chairperson, any one of us who was involved in this team did some reconnaissance and that is how we knew how to get to the particular houses. MR LAMEY: And from there then you made statements to the investigating team from the Attorney-General's office. Can you briefly tell the Committee what the circumstances were surrounding the signing of your initial amnesty application? How did this come about? MR ROUX: As it pleases you Chairperson. The name is Jaco Roux from the Pretoria Bar on instruction of the firm Strydom Britz of Pretoria. I appear in these applications on behalf of Paul Jacobus van Vuuren, Robert Lesley Jubber, Magiel Andries Stefanus Pretorius, Jan Hattingh Cronje and Jacques ... MR RICHARD: It is a matter that I have checked repeatedly with victims and with the Investigating team relating to the prosecution, the statement is that it is denied that there were any Security personnel at the time. The first of these was the possibility of ascertaining the whereabouts of the body of Mr Bhila. There had been efforts made, in fact during the course of an adjournment, various members of the legal team had gone with Mr Wasserman to endeavour to ascertain where Mr Bhila's body was. This was ... |
