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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 621 to 640 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageMr Chairman, it is my submission that Mr Kloppers has made a full disclosure. He has been frank about the severety of the assault and the way in which it happened. Mr Chairman, I would submit that this assault, although very severe and reprehensible, if one approach, armchair approach to that, ... MR CORNELIUS: Was there any reason for Mr de Kock and his team to doubt your information or doubt the target which you had identified? MR BOTHA: Chairperson, perhaps I could facilitate this for Mr Lalla. The Knoll was under observation, the house in Brickfield was under observation, many other houses were under observation, we were a core group of people who had knowledge, one of the activities of Vula and those people involved, ... After a burglary at Effesus House, which was the subject matter of another amnesty hearing of 1st and 3rd Applicants, a Vlakplaas team under Eugene de Kock broke into this house and later burnt it down. The 3rd Applicant was normally attached to Unit C2 but was recruited by De Kock for the ... Hechter testified that during the relevant time he was based in Pretoria where he worked under the command of Cronje. He was in charge of a team of operatives who occasionally went out at night to attack people whom they saw as enemies of the previous government. It was their task to defend ... MR LAMEY: And from there then you made statements to the investigating team from the Attorney-General's office. Can you briefly tell the Committee what the circumstances were surrounding the signing of your initial amnesty application? How did this come about? MR DU TOIT: It is possible that I spoke to him, but I cannot recall that I said anything to him regarding a disguise or a beard or anything like that. Usually there were many people on such a scene and the first person that one would speak to would be the demolitions expert, who in this case was ... MR ROSSOUW: Just before we continue, the co-operation between yourself, a member of C2 to then join the operational team, C1, did this happen before at other opportunities? Have you worked with them before? CHAIRPERSON: We thank the three of you for the testimony which you have come to give here. We will send our Investigative Team to you in Fort Beaufort to come and take more details as they are going to go and investigate the MR MALINDI: Thank you, Chairperson. It's Malindi, M-a-l-i-n-d-i, I represent the victims. I appear with my attorney, Mr Koopedi, who is not in at the moment but will be joining this team later during the course of the day. MR ROSLEE: I did. I was part of his team. At that point, Stanza was punched in the stomach by Zeelie who was part of that team and he fell on the bed, and the other Policemen was busy registering books that he found in the flat, asking if Stanza was drunk in Afrikaans, and also punched him. MR BOTHA: From the nearest house, yes. The specific place which we refer to, was a place which we have already pointed out to the Investigation Team here in Durban. It is two houses next to each other and the closest house from there, is about 300 metres. We would also like to express our appreciation to the security provided to us, in particular Captain Mkushe and his team, as well as the Uniformed Branch and the Traffic Branch; the caterers who have fed us so well, and the sound technicians and everybody else involved - Lulanga, Ms Mtanga for the ... MR VISSER: You have missed something. Can you recall whether you made any false statements to that investigative team? MR VISSER: Do you accept from the Investigating Team from the TRC that there were two people who were injured? CHAIRPERSON: They were together as a team. MR JANSEN: And some of the other applicants allege that you compiled this operational team or selected this operational team, can you please tell the Committee who exactly decided upon who the members of this particular operational team would be. And having regard to the fact that I was in a prison cell and completely in the dark as to what was going on, the fact that I needed to get information, the fact that I needed to give information in order to keep my credibility as it were, with the TRC Investigating Team at the time. I mean I ... MR VISSER: And did it occur to you that the investigation team was busy with a pretty thorough investigation? |
