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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 621 to 640 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageMR VALLY: If Mrs Madikizela Mandela was involved in these activities as is set out in more detail in Mr Cachalia's submission, and if you Mr Morobe felt that it was important enough to release this press statement which has very strong allegations, very briefly we are outraged by the reign of ... "Yes there were. We came out of different experiences. And we viewed things through different perspectives, especially you take the question of apartheid in sport. If the South African selectors decided to include a token black in their rugby team, the black members of staff would have said so and ... The team which went out on the mission to kill Mr Kunene were, Nduna Maphumulo; Mbomseni Gimba; Mtu and the applicant. The applicant was instructed that he should make sure that he also shoots Mr Kunene as part of his learning experience. This was the applicant's first such mission. MR VAN DEN BERG: As I have it Captain Liesk was part of the D'Oliveira investigative team and that he investigated the allegations against Mr de Kock. Do you know about that? MR P DU PLESSIS: It is so that you deal with this aspect concerning Mr Gavin Evans in your amnesty application that appears or that is then based on the document that was written or submitted in December 1991 and at that stage you were represented by this same legal team as Mr Burger and Basson. The Applicant, at the time a member of the Security Branch of the South African Police, was part of a team which interrogated a number of detainees. In the course of the interrogation, these detainees were assaulted and also insulted. CHAIRPERSON: Sorry, before you stop, let me put one of my difficulties to you. Saying now that these men were, I don't know if accomplice is even the right word, they were part of the team that went to Swaziland to unlawfully kidnap Ndwandwe. They played a very active role in the kidnapping. MR BOOYENS: Mr Chairperson, Mr Cornelius' client has just arrived here. He and I have agreed that I will deal with my team of technical personnel first, so with your permission, may we please make the seating arrangements so that we can all take our positions. Could we adjourn, I don't know what ... MR VAN HEERDEN: The typical human reaction to this would have been tension in the team, if there was a leadership crisis. During or about 1990 the Applicant and Vermeulen received a variety of arms from De Kock. The arms were buried by them at Applicant's house situated at Kilner Park, Pretoria, for use by them in the event of a revolution at the time of the first democratic elections in 1994. The cache ... Because I know these gentlemen at times - when we were trying to scrape together funds on the defence team to see if we could afford a cup of tea during the tea break, would boast about getting R6.000-00 to R8.000-00 per day - even when they were on stand-by. MR VISSER: He will say that the investigating officer, the leader of the investigative team was Brigadier In 1983 we married. Before then we had a child, a son, Nomawande. In 1983, we got married while I was expectant of another child, a daughter. As I have already mentioned that Mbuyiselo was of a family involved in politics, I realised that he also was interested in politics. At Komani, ... MS BURTON: Thank you, Chairperson. Mr Siqaza, I wanted to explain to you that our research team and our investigation team have been working very hard to try and put together for us a picture of what happened at that time. We know in fact that we are very close to the place where your father was ... We take note of your request that you need further medical assistance and our team will investigate what can be done in that regard. Is there anything else that you would like to say to us? --- Yes because at the moment I feel very despondent because this leg is giving me a lot of trouble. I ... After I contacted the special investigation team and told them I would give them my full co-operation, I handed three containers with weapons which I had buried. Mr de Kock also did know of all the weapons and amongst others there were 5 LMGs, 6 Makarovs and some explosives. Thank you advocate Van Zyl and I also thank the other members of the legal team whom you have place on record as your instructors. Before we begin may I recognise as being present in our mists certain persons. We have I am told members of the former anti apartheid movement as it then existed in ... MR VAN HEERDEN: Would you for example, travel around in that area with the family and have a look, or go there with an investigative team? CHAIRPERSON: They worked as a team. MR ROSSOUW: In other words, you were a part of a team of C1, Vlakplaas members which was working in Mafikeng and Mr de Kock was still in Pretoria? |
