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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 621 to 640 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageThe Applicant testified that he did not know why K B Magubane killed Black. He had only heard that the previous day there had been a party at Mr Magubane's place. The Chonco boys had also been invited to the party because Mr Magubane had a soccer team and some of the Chonco boys were soccer ... Mr Bleki if there is nothing further then I just want to return to certain aspects. You already lodged your application for amnesty in 1996 and the hearing of your application for amnesty was set down for August 1997, that was last year. But because of certain difficulties with the investigation ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. As I say, we'll now adjourn for a few minutes to enable a fresh team to arrive and for such arrangements to be made. We understand your pain, but we ask that you try to control yourself. So that even when we ask our investigation team to find - to find out what happened, we as the Truth Commission would like to reach a place where there can be peace and forgiveness. They took me back home. They took me home them. When they arrived at home the four men came out. The one with the balaclava, it looked like he was relative to Piet Ntolie and Louis Jonda and Mr Mabena. They accompanied me to the house having guns in their hands. My father was still alive ... CHAIRPERSON: And I think also the point that you raised earlier which one would have to consider, you know, about you saying that these repossession units were specialised units and if there was a shortage they would draw on the task team who were also trained people. It's probably to avoid the ... MR KOTZE: My recollection of the surveillance is that I remained on the ground floor and since we were a very small team, I never moved very far from the, if I remember correctly, the set of glass doors on the eastern side of the building. We left it to Mr de Kock to go in deeper and survey the ... ADV BOSMAN: Were you present at the meeting on the 3rd of January where the decision was taken that the members of the team and the supporters of the team should be attacked when you came across them? upstairs on the 10th floor, I think it was. They had teams of interrogators. Of course there no rest in-between. They kept that up because as one team went off the other team arrived. Perhaps they would allow you perhaps an hour or two to go back to the cell, and then the new team would be ... MR VAN DER MERWE: Yes Mr Chairperson, thank you very much. I have been brought up to speed by the Evidence Leader. I have spoken to the legal team also representing the families and the victims. I've also had an opportunity to speak to the legal team representing the applicants. I have ... CHAIRPERSON: But wouldn't you infer from Mr Mathebula, who was not part of the interrogating team and he has already conceded that it was Mr Prinsloo's style to do this interrogation all by himself, and not involve other people, wouldn't you infer that what he means by interrogation is maybe the ... Now for Special Forces and Parabat Forces and the Police Services it was very clear that there would be a need of a specially trained medical component which would have the same capabilities, in other words would be able to also be dropped by air, or to take part in small team operations or ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Chris. I just want to say at this stage that when the idea of bringing on journalists evolved, we then ateamed, the team that was planning for this hearing, I consulted with a few journalists, I think it was about six journalists from whom I asked their opinion of whom we ... During September 1996 Loots was contacted by Van Vuuren who told him that it was alleged by the Attorney-General's investigating team that Motasi was killed because he had instituted a civil claim against the Minister of police. He never before this had heard of such a civil claim. He does not ... He has asked me to put on record that his prepared to meet the applicants as well as their co-ordinator or leader, Mr Duma Nkosi. A meeting has been scheduled between Mr Duma Nkosi, the applicants and their legal team. And therefore you gave up or the case was dismissed already. In your statement you said that you plead with the Truth Commission it must go further with this investigation. You are not happy. You want the truth to be revealed and you don’t like the manner in which your case was handled. We will ... MR VAN ECK: Mr Chairperson, I was the Chairperson of the Primary School Management team. Mr de Nysschen was the Vice Chairperson, our children went to school together and we became friends. It was in a school context. Those who are working in our investigation team they will bring all the evidence that Sipho Madlala has brought forward. We will see if we can do something. And another thing that you've requested it's help about counselling, you need psychological help, counselling or therapy. Are you still ... MR POTGIETER: Thank you, you may be seated. Welcome to George as well. Mr Lizo, your evidence relates to two incidents. The first one concerns an incident which happened between 1986 and 1987 where you were arrested and tortured by the police, and the second incident relates to August 1993 when ... The incident occurred while a team of Vlakplaas members was assisting the Nelspruit Security Branch. The team were led by Captain Baker and consisted further of Lieutenant Van Dyk, Sergeant Nofemela and Constable Nicholas Dube. |
