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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 621 to 640 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last Page We will come back to you and to the guy you have mentioned, Monde, who was present when these things happened. Our investigating team will come back to you to get those details so that we can have some more information from you and from Monde. Thank you. Our investigating team have been following up and getting the evidence that we need in order that we be able to make a finding and they have taken a statement from an eye witness in this incident. He is a person who is presently in prison, but the prison authorities have given permission for him ... You - you began to tell us a little bit about the fact this incident created quite a [indistinct] there in the press circles and so on. Why do you think that you were banned from coming to the press conferences, the court team - what happened? MR VAN DER MERWE: Your participation or role in this matter does concur with the previous witness, you do confirm that you were not part of the operation itself, but that you were part of the observation team and later on with the transportation of the members who executed the operation. That is ... MR LAMEY: And on this particular evening you were with the team under the leadership of Col de Kock and you went into Swaziland to search these premises. MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... MR VAN ECK: Mr Chairperson, I was the Chairperson of the Primary School Management team. Mr de Nysschen was the Vice Chairperson, our children went to school together and we became friends. It was in a school context. MR McINTYRE: Mr Chairperson, during a visit of the Investigative team of the TRC, they visited me, I think I assisted them in certain matters and I received this form from a member of the Investigative team and I filled in this form in Umtata, as best I could, and when I decided to contact a lawyer ... MR RUDOLPH: Chairperson, on the 17th of September 1990, I was arrested. This was after I was forced underground. I was detained in terms of Section 29 and any one who was detained under Section 29 will know how draconian this was. At the time of these events, after the video, after we compiled ... MR McBRIDE: Yes. Just to elaborate on the answer. I was asked this yesterday by I think, the Honourable Chairperson, and I indicated that the reason for instructing the legal team to ask this question was that already at that stage these were my instructions. My perception was that there would ... MR VAN DER BERG: Because, you see, if the AWB came to Bophuthatswana on the invitation of the government, surely they would have formed part of the same team. In other words the AWB comes there on invitation of the government and of course they all form part of the same team, they’ll strive for ... MR PRIOR: Mr Chairman, we are about to see video footage of the interior of the Tavern as taken by the Police team on the morning after the attack. What is being depicted is the front door of the Tavern. The United Nations Transitional Assistance Team known as UNTAG, was from the 1st of April 1989 actively deployed inside the country occupying military bases and monitoring certain police activity. In a second incident that involved yet another gang that terrorised and harassed the community, Mpele and others once again decided that they had had enough. This time this particular gang had robbed and killed a family of five who owned a tavern at Everest. Cosas members including Mpele, with ... MR VLOK: Mr Chairperson, may I just explain once again. There were often congratulations given to people, because we were a team fighting a common enemy. MS THABETHE: Thank you Mr Chair. I would like to draw the Committee to the papers in front of them. Yes, it is true as my learned colleague has conceived that the applicant is the only person who has testified, but we have papers in front of us. I will start with the issue which I think is ... ADV GCABASHE: In relation to the 31st August which is the day that the Vlakplaas team successfully completed this operation, in relation to that when did you see General Erasmus, one week, one month, two months before? Mr Bleki if there is nothing further then I just want to return to certain aspects. You already lodged your application for amnesty in 1996 and the hearing of your application for amnesty was set down for August 1997, that was last year. But because of certain difficulties with the investigation ... The Applicant testified that he did not know why K B Magubane killed Black. He had only heard that the previous day there had been a party at Mr Magubane's place. The Chonco boys had also been invited to the party because Mr Magubane had a soccer team and some of the Chonco boys were soccer ... CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. As I say, we'll now adjourn for a few minutes to enable a fresh team to arrive and for such arrangements to be made. |
