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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 661 to 680 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 Next Page•Last PageYes, I suppose one could argue the matter in small detail and try and make headway, but for our purposes, we are not going anywhere. Can I just say this to you, as an example and I think you've mentioned it, is that you questioned the use of - or the training in RPG7s. Now say for instance you're ... MR VISSER: That is the one that you signed as it would appear from page 61, before a member of the investigative team of the Attorney-General, is that correct? MR VAN ZYL: That is the case, Mr Chairperson. This statement was prepared by my legal team at that point and this is the evidence that I gave since March 1990. Under cross-examination, Brits revealed that during the criminal trial in which he testified as a State witness against De Kock, he was told by one Advocate Antoinette de Jager not to mention the murder of the deceased herein. He says at the time Ivor Human was part of the Attorney General's ... In the Standerton area the United Democratic Front ("UDF") enjoyed widespread support as a "peoples' organisation" from residents and the youth. Initially things went very well as the youth largely identified themselves with the UDF. But later problems started when some of the youth in the area ... MR PATEL: Mr Chairman, I think as being part of the team that represents applicants, there's been an attempt to use this document, surely we ought to be able to examine it? MR NORTJE: I took the investigative team to the scene and that was about 10 years ago and the trees seemed, or seemed like they were cut down and they started growing, but the original trees were taller than those in photo 6A. MR LEOPENG: Did you ask the team which abducted him from Swaziland how was his reaction when he was abducted, whether he fought with them, whether he resisted abduction? MR VAN DER VEER: I'm not aware that Jimmy Deale signed it. Let me explain the situation on that Saturday morning, not that night, okay? It's five o'clock in the morning, we have an aircraft missing, we're not sure what happened, okay? When Mr Lewis phoned me the first time, he said to me, ... MR MANTHATA: Okay. I will leave you over to Russel Ally, who has had contact with our investigative team on this matter. Perhaps he can lead you on the basis of what he might be having in the office. Over to you Russel. You prepared your application according to Section 18 of the Act, and you gave your cooperation to the Investigative Team of the TRC, is that correct? MR BRITS: That is correct, yes, he was part of the team. MR MNISI: They were there watching and they knew very well that he was my friend. We grew up together, we were playing in one soccer team and we were also vendors. Firstly the police investigation was limited by the resources that were made available and the lack of vigour with which the police pursued the investigation and the interference in the investigation by the arms of the state. As one of the examples, the Oribi Hotel at the top of our street was an ... MR ERASMUS: He could possibly have been there because he was the head of the demolitions team. ADV DE JAGER: Could I say that in the past we had the Ngo matter where the Investigation Team couldn't find any documents and the private attorneys appearing for people got hold of those documents within three hours by going to the police station and asking for it, here in Mamelodi actually. MR CORNELIUS: Was there any reason for Mr de Kock and his team to doubt your information or doubt the target which you had identified? Mr Chairman, it is my submission that Mr Kloppers has made a full disclosure. He has been frank about the severety of the assault and the way in which it happened. Mr Chairman, I would submit that this assault, although very severe and reprehensible, if one approach, armchair approach to that, ... MR BOTHA: Chairperson, perhaps I could facilitate this for Mr Lalla. The Knoll was under observation, the house in Brickfield was under observation, many other houses were under observation, we were a core group of people who had knowledge, one of the activities of Vula and those people involved, ... MR ROSSOUW: After the incident you returned with the team to the Republic, can you recall whether this took place on the same day or on the following day? |
