askari

MR HATTINGH: You were never an askari, you were a policeman from the beginning, is that correct?

Rifle Mbatha, SADF, Const Vilakazi, CIS Secretary Branch, Nelspruit, Jerry Dlamini, SADF, Alfeus Mondlane, SADF Nelspruit, ...(indistinct) Masego an askari, Sgt Lynn, SAP, CIS Nelspruit, Const Hlope, SAP, CIS Komatipoort, Lucky Sambo, SADF, Major van Jaarsveld, SAP CIS, Nelspruit, Col van Zyl, ...

... Yes Chairperson, I also realised that and I thought back to what Nortje had told me. They sent in Mosiane, they tried to lure him by means of an askari. An askari is not a person who presents himself as a terrorist, he is a person who is a terrorist, he was a terrorist before, and Japie ...

Mosiane testified that he was carrying out an order from his superior when he burnt the Sacred Heart Church Hall and believed that he was acting to protect the previous regime which he, as an askari, was defending at the relevant time during the current political conflict.

... down and they phoned others. They said, today we found the terrorist. There was also a person who was there by the name of Sam. They said he's and Askari and Sam said it is better to - you must - you had better tell them where are the guns, or else you won't live long. I said to them, I'm not in ...

MR JANSEN: Why for example, did you not send in an example to move around in the vicinity of the house, one of the black members or an Askari to patrol in the vicinity of the house?

MR CORNELIUS: And then finally, you would agree that if the information had been disclosed by an askari, for example the names and identities of askaris, their addresses, registration numbers of their vehicles, that could endanger Vlakplaas.

Mr de Kock, I am representing Daniel Nkala. I believe that he was an askari at the Vlakplaas unit.

... was trained overseas. I think that in the murder docket there would also have been a statement which would have explained this, about a so-called askari who received a statement that he had been trained ...

MR GROBBELAAR: One day he told me that he had received a report from a new Askari that he had met a certain Musi. Apparently Musi has asked Mfalapitsa to assist him and some of his Cosas friends with the supply of weapons and weapons training because it was their intention to murder W/A Nkosi who ...

MR JANSEN: Joe Mamasela is probably the askari or the person who had the closest knowledge of the individuals and the structures within Botswana, is that correct?

MR LAMEY: And it was in that capacity as an askari that you got involved with these two incidents that are before the Committee?

MR CALLAGHAN: That is the only reason. I understand Mr Malan's question in that I was housed while seconded to Koevoet, in the askari prisoner of war camp and so it would have been common practice to have brought them back to that camp and having turned them. I don't know why in this incident ...

MR DANDALA: What I was trying to explain here is that there is this word askaris. I did not know it. I used to know the word trained terrorist. Trained terrorist. I got to know the word askari after they were killed. I mean after the killing of Ndondo.

... opportunity to rehabilitate. So in the experience of the Amnesty Committee it would appear as if his perception was closer to the perception of an askari or a policeman, but definitely not that of an informer in the traditional sense of the ...

... possibly true". It would follow in these proceedings the Committee finds itself in a situation where we've essentially got the, let's call it the Askari version and we've go the Port Elizabeth version, and the two versions cannot, there is a conflict between them, to some extent. Of course ...

If my memory serves me correctly, one of the persons who were in the van with them at the time was shot and killed. And they went further to say that one of the parties had been arrested and according to their information had become an Askari. Do you bear any knowledge of this incident?

CHAIRPERSON: I take it if somebody had - if an askari had reverted and had then come back to try to infiltrate you, it would be important to find out as much as you could about what he had told anybody, who he had associated with and matters of that nature.

... that its not only Nkosi that was relevant to the decision, Chairperson, what was also relevant was the position and the safety of Mfalapitsa as an Askari informer. And he came and in his evidence he confirmed that. He said he doesn’t know what might have happened to him if his identity had ...

... people were going to be shot at and he would even tell me not to go there because I was going to be hurt and then he would take a newly recruited askari and leave me behind, a person who has experience, and try to protect me. Meaning that he did not care, he did not bother about the lives of ...