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askariExplanation Showing 221 to 240 of 325 First Page•Previous Page 8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 Next Page•Last Page... and unsatisfactory. He said that what he was trying to convey in his statement of 2 October 1997 was that he only became aware of the name "askari" after the killing. This explanation is plainly contradicted by what is stated in the statement which is quoted in the preceding paragraph. ... MR MOLEFE: That is correct and from the evidence it appears that he in actual fact crossed sides in that he apparently became an Askari. This particular person apparently also had a lot to do with this particular incident in that he's the one who provided Mr Toka with the intelligence report. ... MR DE KOCK: Yes, Mr Chairperson. They were caught in a roadblock on their way to attack an ANC house in Gaborone. It came from an askari, or no, sorry, not an askari but from a terrorist or ANC MK member that we caught in Durban that morning. He was caught by members of Vlakplaas. That MK ... MR ROBERTSHAW: I saw him, he was an askari. Hatiso Kadi was an askari and he often came to Ladybrand. ... co-operate, basically confirming the information at his disposal. He immediately formed the opinion that the Deceased could be recruited as an Askari. He did not proceed with the paperwork for the arrest and after questioning him for much of the night, the next day took him to the farm, ... ... went with me to Unit D. For example Brian Nxqulunga was not transferred to Unit D or to Vlakplaas at that time whereas Pete Mogai was - another Askari. And then there was another one, Edgar, another Askari who worked with us, who, if I am not mistaken, was transferred to ... MR BIZOS: We are discussing this case, that is why we believe that introducing examples of other situations like the askari. The askari may be between the devil and the deep blue sea. He may have to go to jail if he doesn't listen to his captors or - but we are dealing with these particular ... MR VAN RENSBURG: I think that one was an askari who had formally served at Vlakplaas. I would imagine but I'm not certain. I think so, but I suspect that I may be mistaken, he may have come after me to Port Elizabeth, he doesn't really ring a bell in my mind but during the amnesty hearing I was ... ... from home. It is through your work, in fact after her disappearance reports were carried in the South African media suggesting that she was now an askari, and therefore the family and the ANC, many in the ANC lived in the belief that she had deserted the ANC to work for the enemy, it is through ... ... Commissioner, he went to the police. I think he then revealed the whole story and the escort had him safely back to South Africa and he became the askari that he ... ADV LAMEY: So you were a permanent force member or permanent member of the police from the time that you joined the police, you weren’t an Askari? ... in COSAS, by one Joe Mamasela, a member f Unit C10. Thereafter Mamasela was assisted by Thinyelwa Daniel Nkala (the 2nd Applicant), who was an askari member of Unit C10. Together they made contact with approximately twenty members of COSAS under the pretence that they were members of MK. ... ... who was the most senior member of C1 present, had discussed the matter with certain members of the West Rand Division, it was decided that an Askari approach the Deceased on the pretence that he was an MK cadre wanting to meet with Odirile Maponya. The 7th Applicant was sent to talk to ... MR MOHLABA: Are you saying that in this particular case, you had a source which provided you with information, which source was not security officer or an Askari, is that correct? ... who had been the Commissar at Catengue camp. When he was sent back into the country he immediately reported to his handlers, and became the first Askari. Pharoah Mogale had been a political instructor at the camp, and was later deployed to the Youth Secretariat at HQ in Lusaka. Another ... ... that I made in that brief time and which I found in the person that Sydney was. And I just want to tell the family that Sydney Msibi was not an askari, he was also not a traitor. And I believe that due to the background that I have accumulated in guerrilla warfare over 24 years, I have the ... ... to be in work that's going to be a misery in my life, and he said he was in the Harms Commission and there was another side which was called the askari. That was the time when I started seeing that he was not happy at all. All these things happened while he worked. He wanted to get married ... All the Applicants except for Taylor who is deceased testified. The gist of their evidence is to the effect that Sikhakhane had become an "askari" during 1988 after defecting from the ANC who were apparently intent on sending him to Angola due to, inter alia, disciplinary problems. Some of the ... MR MOGOAI: Your Honour, as an askari I regarded all white officials as my seniors. I took instructions from all of them, because they regarded me as their subject, I had no choice. ... is in fact the core upon which this application turns, I will ask you to take into consideration Mr de Kock's admission that Mr Msibi was not an askari, he had not become an informer, he was in fact a man of integrity, to take into consideration the circumstances which led to his abduction. ... |