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askariExplanation Showing 221 to 240 of 325 First Page•Previous Page 8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 Next Page•Last PageVisser also testified that Sedibe was abducted with a view to converting him into an askari (converted agent) whilst Deetlef's' version was that their aim was simply to extract information from him. It was clear from the evidence that Sedibe eventually supplied information although it was in all ... MR BIZOS: We are discussing this case, that is why we believe that introducing examples of other situations like the askari. The askari may be between the devil and the deep blue sea. He may have to go to jail if he doesn't listen to his captors or - but we are dealing with these particular ... MR MOLEFE: That is correct and from the evidence it appears that he in actual fact crossed sides in that he apparently became an Askari. This particular person apparently also had a lot to do with this particular incident in that he's the one who provided Mr Toka with the intelligence report. ... MR ROBERTSHAW: I saw him, he was an askari. Hatiso Kadi was an askari and he often came to Ladybrand. ... and unsatisfactory. He said that what he was trying to convey in his statement of 2 October 1997 was that he only became aware of the name "askari" after the killing. This explanation is plainly contradicted by what is stated in the statement which is quoted in the preceding paragraph. ... MS PATEL: Well perhaps your understanding of the term askari is not the normal understanding that we have here of an askari being a turned liberation or MK, PAC person who would then be turned and then used by the Security Forces against the liberation movements, but I'll take it no further. MR VAN RENSBURG: I think that one was an askari who had formally served at Vlakplaas. I would imagine but I'm not certain. I think so, but I suspect that I may be mistaken, he may have come after me to Port Elizabeth, he doesn't really ring a bell in my mind but during the amnesty hearing I was ... of Vlakplaas was no longer the political playing field. I was requested to go over so that I could remove the Vlakplaas members, which included the Askari members from the political arena to the criminal arena, which I then did and as soon as the 24th of March 1991 an abridged course was ... ... they hope that it will be known not only in this room, but in public as well, especially where they live in KwaMashu, that Mr Dion Cele was not an askari or an informer, because all along they've been harassed by the community they live in because there were those rumours that Mr Dion Cele was ... Applicant was an MK soldier who had been kidnapped and became an askari. He was ordered to identify members of MK who came back to the RSA after they had received training abroad. His commander at Vlakplaas was Captain De Kock. MS BUTHELEZI: He spoke about Ngono, I spoke about Betty and there's nothing that would make me say Ngono was an enemy agent or an askari or whatever you want me to say. I don't believe it, I don't think he could just like Betty. The arrest of Mr Ngono did not lead to any mass arrest. His contact ... MR HATTINGH: And that he had threatened to disclose that information if he was not appointed as a policeman because he was still an askari? MR PRINSLOO: I could have, Chairperson, but after my conversation with him and my questioning of him, I had already come to a decision that he was a possible askari, that I could possibly turn his head. ... of the ANC who was deployed inside the country. He was arrested and turned by the South African Police to work for them, namely, to operate as an askari. The Applicants had also received information that the deceased was frequently seen in soweto. He was usually in the company of Joe ... ADV BOOYENS: That is the askari? ... severe torture was afflicted, where the people in fact died and he has not hidden one fact, especially in the matter of Moses Ntalang, who was an askari who was murdered in the canteen at Vlakplaas. That was I think it's a case that really tried his credibility to the utmost. ... ... instructions were only given with regards to the executing of this operation and nothing to do with the motivation for the operation. He was an Askari at that ... "When I was recruited to join CCB, a certain person who had been left with me in East London, identified himself as an askari and told me about the activities of askaris and their cooperation with the SAP and Transkei Police Force." MR JANSEN: Just to mention this briefly, the incident was also about an askari, but he was not connected to Vlakplaas, he worked for the Bophuthatswana Police. I couldn't necessarily send my Askaris in because if I was going to send an Askari member in, he would have to be a PAC member and he would be identified by the PAC. The Botswana border patrol or police patrol residing in that community would have arrested this foreign person. |