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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 341 to 360 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 14 •15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 Next Page•Last Page Mr Rorich, with this sort of operation that you executed there, would it have been at all possible to determine whether or not there were so-called innocent persons in the places that you blew up? "I was instructed by Col Botha from Durban, to accompany him on an operation to Swaziland. I was informed by him that there was information to hand that an important Umkhonto weSizwe member, Dion Cele, had indicated that he would be willing to work for the Security Branch. And our mission would ... MR SNYDERS: Yes, Chairperson. With regard to some of the incidents, tape recordings were made by Mr de Kock, which we played back to Mr Oosthuizen once we arrived back in Pretoria, to indicate that the operation had been successfully completed. ... to the then situation when the Venda government was still in control of the - everybody was saying the traditional healers and witches were in co-operation so that the government should not really be targeted or ... MR BOOYENS: And is it further correct, as you have already testified, that the decision to eliminate such a person and the decision to continue whatsoever with the operation, was not within your control? MR VISSER: Did you know beforehand that it was intended and that an instruction was given that as soon as the persons whom we are referring to here, entered Swaziland, there would be an operation to eliminate them? MR KOOLE: That is Mr de Kock who asked us as to whether we have our passports or not, then he told us to prepare ourselves because at that night we would be going to Swaziland to do a certain operation. ... the Commission's Report, in the paragraphs that we were dealing with. I just want to find the paragraphs, yes 395, and because of your lack of co-operation I didn't put the names to you of 398. Now did that intention to protect that you had in 1990, carry through when you gave evidence before ... MR LAX: But you see, your evidence and the evidence in these statements is that these guns were given to you by Master, specifically to go on this operation, these are not general guns that you had for your general use, these were guns issued for you to specially go and catch Hamilton Gumede, and ... The applicant states that whilst he was at the base Swanepoel called all the members into a hall. He told tem that he was planning to launch an operation to recruit someone from the local community as an informer. Different roles were assigned to different members and the place had to be cleared ... MR KOOPEDI: Now did you gain anything personally, that is perhaps financially or materially, were you paid for having taken part in this operation? With the information that we have now, about the way Vlakplaas operates - how do you feel about this fact that you were not told that this operation involved Vlakplaas? ... the time of these instructions without any specific means to target, the discretion to select which Police to target was left solely upon us. The operations of our Unit commenced around 1991, (indistinct) by the heightened hostel violence especially around Merafi hostel which is not far from ... MR CORNELIUS: It is common cause that you received instructions from your commander, Col de Kock, to attend an operation in Swaziland, is that correct? ... sufficient time to enable me to collect further information regarding Chris Hani's movements before the decision regarding how, where and when the operation would be ... As far as the operation itself is concerned Tanda and Shiceka have admitted and confessed to you that they were directly involved in perpetrating the attack. They were armed with automatic weapons and grenades. The automatic weapons were used. ... He survived the incident, however his work circumstances were completely disadvantaged after the incident and he could no longer offer the same co-operation after the incident than prior to the incident. His entire system shut down after the incident, despite his physical recovery. That is ... MR SNYDERS: Chairperson, approximately 18H00 or 19H00 we arrived at Vlakplaas after we went to Swaziland for an operation. The Applicants and Nortje who also testified, say they waited at the point for quite some time and at some stage abandoned the operation. Later Lucas and Simon came to report that they had shot and killed the suspects because they suspected that the latter were trying to get them into a trap for ... MR WILLS: With the operation of the firearm? |
