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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 361 to 380 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 Next Page•Last Pagerelevant provisions of the Act and how those provisions should be applied to the facts of this case. With that in mind, I would like to ask your co-operation in trying to find out whether you could furnish us - counsel who wish to furnish us with argument by Friday, a fortnight from now which is ... With the establishment of the United Democratic Front in 1983, a new phase was entered. Many organisations joined the UDF country-wide and although it could never be determined exactly in what respect the ANC/SACP Alliance controlled the UDF, there was close co-operation between them. MR KHWEZA: Did you know who had given the orders to Bobbie, Sonny and the other gentleman to carry out the operation in question? ... understanding of that particular chapter was that there was some sort of arrangement between Mrs Mandela and Xoliswa Falati in connection with your operation to go and trap Paul Verryn on Mrs Mandela’s instructions. Was Mrs Falati involved in this conspiracy that you are talking about that is ... ... the Commission's Report, in the paragraphs that we were dealing with. I just want to find the paragraphs, yes 395, and because of your lack of co-operation I didn't put the names to you of 398. Now did that intention to protect that you had in 1990, carry through when you gave evidence before ... MR KOOLE: That is Mr de Kock who asked us as to whether we have our passports or not, then he told us to prepare ourselves because at that night we would be going to Swaziland to do a certain operation. MR MKOSANA: No Sir, orders were given. Every soldier knows that he will have an operation that on the 7th of September and then we'll be deployed at the stadium. Everybody was given orders. I've given a warning order to my deputy and then I also to affect my own orders and then I give them to my ... MR KOOPEDI: Now did you benefit anything material, you financially, at a personal level for having executed this operation? MR MAPOMA: I see. Okay, now let us come to the place now. Before you went you planned the attack didn't you? You did plan the operation? INSP. DE LA REY: Mr Chairperson, after the arrests I got good co-operation from those persons arrested. There was a good understanding between us and as I have said voluntarily without being forced in any way, these items were pointed out to me and I was given certain information without using ... ... we cleaned the offices next door, burned documents and left the offices clean and tidy. The carpets were vacuumed. It was quite a clean-up ... The PAC and APLA in their submissions and oral evidence to the TRC stated that Operation Storm involved the killing of farmers and the stealing of weapons. JUDGE DE JAGER: Just one thing, were you in charge of this operation? MR KOOPEDI: Now did you gain anything personally, that is perhaps financially or materially, were you paid for having taken part in this operation? Essentially this operation was executed in an effort to maintain the ANC/IFP borders that had come about as a result of the violent conflict in the area. The defensive action at Mazibuko ensured that the residents of Thokoza did not lose any more houses, shops, etc. to the IFP, because each time ... "We would like to inform you that the Bisho Matter is set from 31 January to 1 February 2000 at a venue to be announced later. Thank you for your co-operation herein. Yours faithfully, Zuko Camagu." Confused as I was I said that maybe he should go ahead and kill me and kill my children as well and just finish the whole job. And he said he won't do that but what he does, he kills people who are wrong and perpetrators but as for me I was innocent, so he won't go on ahead with the operation. He says he's referring to the taxi and busses war. I told him that the conflict between the taxis and busses has been resolved and they are now in operation peacefully. As we were talking, the white man who was using the machine left, Amos went to the ATM machine. His words disturbed me as he ... I would also like to place on record the fact that we're extremely obliged to Mr Shaik for his co-operation in this regard, he has been here today ready to go on with the hearing and he has agreed to the matter being adjourned without opposition and we understand very much how much he wants to ... ADV STEENKAMP: Just a follow-up question. Were you under the impression that Mr Jubber must have known or that he would have known subsequently of the operation that you had been involved with? Is that what you have said? |