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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 541 to 560 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last Page... Two of the friends that I know personally, one guy had a heart attack straight afterwards, another lady is in hospital at present having a back operation, also I believe was caused by the blast as well, so I just felt that that does need to be taken into account that when these decisions are ... We turn now to the murders. It is clear from the evidence that there had been no prior discussion as to the killing of any person during this operation. There was no suggestion in the evidence that this was regarded as a political objective within their express or implied authority. The second ... MR BOOYENS: Your division didn't really have the appropriate information to evaluate the exact nature and so forth of an operation in which those things that you had manufactured would be used? MR SIMS: We were at the Bisho Police College, the Riot Unit premises are located in the College premises. We were busy in one of the offices there, checking premises for a joint operation centre, for the elections on the 27th of April. CHAIRPERSON: The question was when you were instructed to steal cars for the Ntuli operation was Mr Thulani Mlaba present? MR PIENAAR: I can only start, Chairperson, by saying that I did not have any knowledge beforehand of this operation that was executed by Capt van Dyk and his team. One morning he approached me in my office and informed me that he had a man at Moolman that was brought from Swaziland, and if I would ... ... up, I was in bed for the whole year. In 1994 I went back to start with my standard 10. In May I had this kidney problem, I had to undergo another operation, that was a drawback in my life. When I came back in August I asked the principal for permission to write my exams. I tried but I didn't ... ... that, you recklessly proceeded to follow the same procedure and you should have foreseen that somebody could die as a result of your second ... MR MEYER:: Can you remember in the case of Mr Ravele you said that he co-operated immediately. How long were you busy with him before he gave his co-operation? Can you remember if, if you can't remember just say so. The 1st Applicant testified that he asked the 2nd Applicant to enlist the assistance of others so that the operation could be put into effect. This was done and Mzwakhe Shandu, the 3rd Applicant, Nyamezela Mkhung (deceased) and Thokozani Ngema were introduced to the Applicant. The plan was ... ... But they do not know what happened thereafter. They do not know the whole story as to what happened, especially with regard to the operation, my husband only knows what they did to me. My daughter-in-law said she wished to accompany me to this hearing, and she was going to hear ... ... if it happens in unnatural circumstances. You do not know exactly what the circumstances were and it is even worse as in your case, you get no co-operation from the police to assist you in finding out what exactly happened so that you can come to rest and peace and can accept how everything ... Braam had had a prostrate operation in July 1974 and about two months after that he saw a Doctor Brand because he had an acute pain in the hip. He was not examined but he was given an analgesic and some physiotherapy. After two weeks with no relief, the physiotherapist referred him back to the ... ... get what I want done, okay? This is very important, you want to get something done, you really have to listen to who the other party is who you co-operation is with. If you only repeat yourself, you're the only one who hears it. You know, so it's wonderful, so you hear your voice you hear it ... ... Chilies. Despite the fact that the unit split into two groups after having entered South Africa they clearly associated themselves with the whole operation as set out at the time of the initial briefing by ... As I have already said, I am glad that the TRC has come here today - if I didn’t have co-operation - my choir would not have been here today, this shows that I am not against the people of Hanover. Nobody can come to me and say that I have done something bad to them. In my co-operation with Hintsa Siwisa, we could get the services of independent pathologists, but they only arrived on the Wednesday of that week. MR HATTINGH: Yes, he may not have been present there, but isn't it possible that you may have mentioned his name because you noticed him there at Soutpan with regard to this operation? MS THABETHE: Yes, Mr Chair, and I would also like to add that the operation ...(indistinct) and Shabalala incident and Gordhan and Lalla will also be heard during that week as well. CHAIRPERSON: As to the execution, that was, the decision was a general one, to kill these people and on the face of it, it was left to some trained group to put into operation. |
