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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 621 to 640 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Yes I'm questioning your co-operation, I know that we don't have any problems with that. MR SIMS: We were at the Bisho Police College, the Riot Unit premises are located in the College premises. We were busy in one of the offices there, checking premises for a joint operation centre, for the elections on the 27th of April. ... But they do not know what happened thereafter. They do not know the whole story as to what happened, especially with regard to the operation, my husband only knows what they did to me. My daughter-in-law said she wished to accompany me to this hearing, and she was going to hear ... MR RICHARD: Now the question is the following, did you intend to kill the deceased Constable, when you set out on your operation that evening, that morning? ... 7.5, in context that the degrees of attacks from hostel dwellers did not really reduce the level of violence. Rather the matter of third force operation became more sophisticated and notifiably more mobile so these very operations by third force were assisted by members of the police in that ... ... conclusion. I also did it because I believed that the incorporation of these facts would protect the lives of the members who took part in the operation, that is now Sehlwana and the ... JUDGE PILLAY: And an integral part of this group, its survival depend on the loyalty of those people and how they could keep this whole operation a secret. The 1st Applicant testified that he asked the 2nd Applicant to enlist the assistance of others so that the operation could be put into effect. This was done and Mzwakhe Shandu, the 3rd Applicant, Nyamezela Mkhung (deceased) and Thokozani Ngema were introduced to the Applicant. The plan was ... CHAIRPERSON: I would like to request everyone’s co-operation. The question being put by Reverend Xundu, if I understand it correctly, is that he wants to know if you had any knowledge of the fact that people did object to the presence of councillors. ... of the Azapo but were involving themselves purely for personal gain. It would therefore be deceptive to refer to the robbery as being an Azapo ... There is no indication that the Applicant acted out of a personal grudge against the deceased. There is also no evidence that he personally benefitted from the operation. We are satisfied that he is entitled to amnesty. MR MOHLABA: The nature of the operation, the way it was to be carried out, was it discussed in full details at this meeting? ... deceased on 8 May 1985 and their subsequent killing by other members of the Security Police on the 9th or 10th of May was in fact one continuous operation or not would depend largely on the evidence of what transpired over the relevant period. It should also be kept in mind that it is ... We did go to our own operation as planned because we agreed that I would be the commander of this unit. On the other side Vuyu would be the commander and he would be accompanied by Ri, then the other one would be the commander of Derek. ... go to consult your Commander and say can I get an order to go and protect, so it only happens you know, sometimes when they had to sort of plan an operation. I think if you go through the submission there is a place where I mention a Small, a guy by the name of Small, who was very short. He ... MR MATHIBELA: Yes I went to the lawyers to Mr Sad Kachalia, I claimed and I wanted to be compensated because I had an operation, and he told me I was going to be compensated. Actually I wanted to sue those people, so later on I told them I want to be compensated, that's what I told the lawyers at ... ... and not during a testimony. So if you need to leave please will you leave after someone has given his or her testimony. Could we have your co-operation in that regard. Thank you. ... ... from above and then we had to go and look at the feasibility of those orders, could they be carried out for instance, whether it was a high risk operation or whether it was quite feasible to carry out and then I would have gone back to those people and I would have given them ... MR ALBERTS: Now you have already expressed your sentiments during the previous application concerning the unfortunate consequences that this type of operation held. Do you stand by that too for the present purposes or not? MR BIZOS: It has been suggested that the information that reached Mr Verster, the Director of this Civil Co-operation, ...(indistinct), that the information that reached him that you were a bunch of gangsters ... |
