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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 661 to 680 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: And what was his mood like? He had been abducted from Maseru, was he relatively affable or did you struggle to obtain co-operation from him? ... a few comments. We wish to thank firstly the logistics officers for making this hearing a success and for everything they've done to put it into operation. We wish to thank the interpreters for being in attendance most of the time, or all the time and assisting in ... MR VISSER: What would members of your branch have done in participation in this operation? ... what was happening. He said he could not say a word to me and I am also losing my job as they are saying I am ANC member and I cannot carry on the operation effectively. I decided, no, let it be, whatever can happen. Mum take over, there is nothing more I want to say. ... ... impression that I might be lazy, because I just don’t have a focus. It’s although I go blank and I can’t remember anything. Last year I’ve had a operation to my knee. I’m a [indistinct] , there I asked the doctors to try and establish whether I’ve lie - low or high blood pressure because I ... MR LAX: I am not going to waste time, the way you have written it here, is that everybody in the community knew that Msani had sold the brother out, the comrades then planned to kill him. It was after everybody knew, that they planned this operation and that doesn't tie in with your evidence. The applicant testified that he was a member of Cradoya who at the time was under the leadership of Mr Matthew Goniwe. The applicant in fact often visited Mr Goniwe but was under the direct command of a certain Mr Mhlauli. He testified that the latter ordered the operation. ... go back there because what I came to do, I did not do. What I’m trying to say is that I’m sorry for joining the ANC because I’m crippled, I had an operation in my hand but my muscles were injured and I cannot do anything now. This was because I was accused of this. I would still like the ANC ... MR VISSER: Previously, during a previous application, you testified regarding the co-operation which existed between among others, the Security Branch and Special Forces regarding the exchange of information? MR MATHIBELA: Yes I went to the lawyers to Mr Sad Kachalia, I claimed and I wanted to be compensated because I had an operation, and he told me I was going to be compensated. Actually I wanted to sue those people, so later on I told them I want to be compensated, that's what I told the lawyers at ... ... to get my son's corpse in Botswana. I am tired. We have passports they are new, I cannot afford to go to Botswana. I have just undergone an operation. I am speaking to you at the moment, however I cannot see you. God granted me some strength I can do my washing and iron my ... The applicant perceived his general instructions as being "to seek, identify and attack the enemy who was seen in the context of the above stated bastions and minions of the regime, and also to train other cadres and command them in whatever operation that is being embarked upon." ... I was only allowed to communicate or talk to the police. There was a lot of pressure put on me from very early that morning. Of course after the operation the television was also present. I was a single parent at that stage and my daughter then was ten years old. In the days proceeding this ... DR MGOJO: Did you undergo any operation? My operation then troubled me, it’s my winds that were troubling me. There were doctors there, every morning I went to doctor it was quite serious. The one policeman had a hammer, he wanted to hit my knuckles with the hammer. I told him that I’m not well. He then said - he then said they must ... a car registration number which would help with the identification, a description of the person, photographs of him, standard part and parcel of our operation. If I have mentioned after the fact that Ms Hirshman did make a reference to Mr Madhav, that is true. There is no - I'm a little bit lost ... It is clear that De Kock acted in support of the SB members from Germiston and Witbank. They were busy with an operation to detect and arrest MK guerrillas who they believed were "hard-core" operatives intent on bombing and other acts of violence. The deceased was shot while resisting ... ... visiting imprisoned supporters of his organisation who had applied for amnesty. It was only then that they first met him and the details of the operation were never discussed with ... I also think that if I were to explain further, we also indicated that we accepted their manner of operation, accept it and pleased about it, knowing that they were attempting to bring about stability. At the same time being aware that some people might get injured. MR RAUTENBACH: General, you speak with Erasmus, your fellow General with whom you decided, is your answer then simply that you just left it there and you did not even want to know if the operation was completed properly? |
