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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 721 to 740 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 Next Page•Last Page... Mr Chairperson, Hugo on behalf of Mr de Kock. De Kock also applied for amnesty with regards to the Khanya House incident. He was in charge of the operation and I can tell you for record purposes, he did not say that General van der Merwe or Vlok gave any instructions. He is not going to say ... CHAIRPERSON: And what was his mood like? He had been abducted from Maseru, was he relatively affable or did you struggle to obtain co-operation from him? ... Thank you, gentlemen. And thank you all for your assistance today, I had thought that we would be proceeding longer than we have, but with the co-operation of all of you we have managed to get through it very quickly and this means we now adjourn till Monday morning. Are any of you here on ... MR VISSER: What would members of your branch have done in participation in this operation? ... a few comments. We wish to thank firstly the logistics officers for making this hearing a success and for everything they've done to put it into operation. We wish to thank the interpreters for being in attendance most of the time, or all the time and assisting in ... The applicant testified that he was a member of Cradoya who at the time was under the leadership of Mr Matthew Goniwe. The applicant in fact often visited Mr Goniwe but was under the direct command of a certain Mr Mhlauli. He testified that the latter ordered the operation. The applicant perceived his general instructions as being "to seek, identify and attack the enemy who was seen in the context of the above stated bastions and minions of the regime, and also to train other cadres and command them in whatever operation that is being embarked upon." MR VISSER: Previously, during a previous application, you testified regarding the co-operation which existed between among others, the Security Branch and Special Forces regarding the exchange of information? explosive would be put inside any of the buses as this would result in killing the civilians. I supplied the mines which were to be used in the two operations. I did not have anything further to do with this operation as it was being commanded by Mr ... ... go back there because what I came to do, I did not do. What I’m trying to say is that I’m sorry for joining the ANC because I’m crippled, I had an operation in my hand but my muscles were injured and I cannot do anything now. This was because I was accused of this. I would still like the ANC ... MR MATHIBELA: Yes I went to the lawyers to Mr Sad Kachalia, I claimed and I wanted to be compensated because I had an operation, and he told me I was going to be compensated. Actually I wanted to sue those people, so later on I told them I want to be compensated, that's what I told the lawyers at ... ... to get my son's corpse in Botswana. I am tired. We have passports they are new, I cannot afford to go to Botswana. I have just undergone an operation. I am speaking to you at the moment, however I cannot see you. God granted me some strength I can do my washing and iron my ... ... impression that I might be lazy, because I just don’t have a focus. It’s although I go blank and I can’t remember anything. Last year I’ve had a operation to my knee. I’m a [indistinct] , there I asked the doctors to try and establish whether I’ve lie - low or high blood pressure because I ... ... what was happening. He said he could not say a word to me and I am also losing my job as they are saying I am ANC member and I cannot carry on the operation effectively. I decided, no, let it be, whatever can happen. Mum take over, there is nothing more I want to say. ... ... to use his house and use his yard to get access to the fortified house of the deceased, access thereto being indeed difficult without his open co-operation in that regard. Plus that there was the aspect of his omission, he could have easily have telephonically have alerted the police to what ... ADV STEENKAMP: Can you give us an idea or indication who was actually in charge of this operation. MR VIKTOR: Chairperson, during this operation it would be between me and Mr Hechter, as to the one who handled the device. I cannot recall with regard to this specific incident, who particularly handled the device. a car registration number which would help with the identification, a description of the person, photographs of him, standard part and parcel of our operation. If I have mentioned after the fact that Ms Hirshman did make a reference to Mr Madhav, that is true. There is no - I'm a little bit lost ... My operation then troubled me, it’s my winds that were troubling me. There were doctors there, every morning I went to doctor it was quite serious. The one policeman had a hammer, he wanted to hit my knuckles with the hammer. I told him that I’m not well. He then said - he then said they must ... JUDGE PILLAY: I can understand that. I found out now that it happened but here is a brother of a person who was suspected, now why an operation so no one would know? |
