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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 761 to 780 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 Next Page•Last PageMR GUSHU: Certainly Mr Chairperson. If there was someone whilst I was busy shooting Msibi, there was someone inside, as I knew well, that there were people that were well trained inside the house, my operation would have failed then. CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much. Thank you for your assistance and co-operation. It is unfortunate that sometimes hiccups occur in the course of hearings that tend to delay hearings and one must endeavour to try and avoid these hiccups. You said in your statement, Mrs Ngcobo, that you had operations on your back to try and remove some of the pellets that are in your body, but they have not been completely successful because the left side of your body is not functioning properly. --- Yes, I had an operation, one at the front ... person, they didn't tell me my eye was closed, I couldn't even see because I didn't have a mirror. When I asked the Doctor who had taken me for an operation, he then explained to me the one who was interpreting explained and said Daphne, it is painful whatever happened to you, you must just ... ... intended nor applied as a means of persecuting any individuals or groups. Its ultimate success is not only dependent upon the commitment and co-operation of all our people but vital to our common destiny. In all the circumstances the application is ... In order to avert the onslaught I was aware of the establishment, maintenance and development of certain operational structures from where both overt and covert operations were launched. These operations included inter alia intelligence-gathering as well as actions which were launched to utilise ... with attacking a house at Kwandebele with explosives. Applicant drove the vehicle transporting the members of the Police who were involved in the operation on the night of the incident. Applicant was ordered to drive to a residential area close to the Denilton police offices where he had ... All three are - well one is a journalist, two are law students and they are working in co-operation with NADEL in South Africa and the National Lawyers Guild and the National Conference of Black Lawyers in the United States of America. We’re very pleased to have then with us for a while. ... from above and then we had to go and look at the feasibility of those orders, could they be carried out for instance, whether it was a high risk operation or whether it was quite feasible to carry out and then I would have gone back to those people and I would have given them ... MR VISSER: Thank you. Were you ever informed of any operation in which Mbulelo Ngono was involved in, in South Africa, or one of the so-called home States, homelands? MR BOOYENS: And you as well as the other members of the Technical Division were never placed in a position to consider the merits of an operation because you did not receive full details about it? the 30th of October 1995. It is clear from that reply that the applicant was told that his application was being kept over until the Act comes into operation, whereafter it will be submitted for possible consideration to the relevant Committee which will be appointed for this purpose (Committee ... CHAIRPERSON: And had they been brought there for the other operation? MR MEMANI: Yes, Mr Chairman, although it is not on his own as such, it is a quite involved operation. I think two policemen, I think Tsoametsi and Ramosoeu, if I am not mistaken, took him there. ... the same authority with regard to developments that fall outside this framework. In this regard, I made an unsuccessful attempt to enlist the co-operation of by predecessor, Mr P W Botha. The submission was, however, prepared after discussions with the retired leadership of the South African ... second Applicant, asking what they wanted, 1st Applicant shot Mr Makhathini twice. He died as a result. They then left the scene and again the operation was reported to ... MR VAN DYK: That is correct. I wouldn't say that his courage failed him completely, I think perhaps he didn't want to carry on with the operation, but after we spoke we then together, both of us went to the wooden house. "Look, we've got our target, the policeman" and an hour later they have their weapons and they go into the house. It just seems that to arrange an operation like this, there had to be some form of planning and it seems clear, Chairperson, that yes, Mr Andrew Chauke did go to that house, he did ... MR VISSER: He also said that after he had committed this task in co-operation with Mamome and Ramouseau, he reported back and you were not satisfied that they did not remove enough articles from that house and that you thought he had to remove more articles from that house to simulate a break-in. CHAIRPERSON: I understand that this was not a matter of a simple interpretation, but it required the co-operation of a number of people including the applicant, but I gather we are now satisfied with the version that has been put up and we should, perhaps, mark it 35A so that it can go into the ... |
