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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 761 to 780 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 Next Page•Last PageMR COETZEE: Once I had arrived at Brig Schoon's office, he informed me that the South African Defence Force were looking for a reason to launch an operation against an ANC facility in Botswana. ... one of our subjects. It was widely believed that she was a very prominent member of the underground structures of the ANC and she was involved in Operation VULA, to some extent, so I'd heard of her name before and I knew that she was - I didn't know whether she was MK trained, but I knew she ... MR SIMS: We were at the Bisho Police College, the Riot Unit premises are located in the College premises. We were busy in one of the offices there, checking premises for a joint operation centre, for the elections on the 27th of April. MR MEYER:: Can you remember in the case of Mr Ravele you said that he co-operated immediately. How long were you busy with him before he gave his co-operation? Can you remember if, if you can't remember just say so. MR BOOYENS: Your division didn't really have the appropriate information to evaluate the exact nature and so forth of an operation in which those things that you had manufactured would be used? CHAIRPERSON: The question was when you were instructed to steal cars for the Ntuli operation was Mr Thulani Mlaba present? MR PIENAAR: I can only start, Chairperson, by saying that I did not have any knowledge beforehand of this operation that was executed by Capt van Dyk and his team. One morning he approached me in my office and informed me that he had a man at Moolman that was brought from Swaziland, and if I would ... The 1st Applicant testified that he asked the 2nd Applicant to enlist the assistance of others so that the operation could be put into effect. This was done and Mzwakhe Shandu, the 3rd Applicant, Nyamezela Mkhung (deceased) and Thokozani Ngema were introduced to the Applicant. The plan was ... ... deceased on 8 May 1985 and their subsequent killing by other members of the Security Police on the 9th or 10th of May was in fact one continuous operation or not would depend largely on the evidence of what transpired over the relevant period. It should also be kept in mind that it is ... away. It is difficult to get a job because of this operation. ... I saw a big open space, there were only beds there and there was a big table in the middle of that hall and there is also a man hopefully it was an operation theatre because [indistinct] they were busy operating him. ... He was sent to Frere Hospital and they amputated him and he passed away in operation. MR MBEWU: No, the operation was never performed. I thought they were going to try and remove the pellet and it was apparent that they were going to be unable to do that without damaging my eye and that it was going to be better for them to take it out and replace it with whatever they were going ... Further that Winnie promised to pay us R20 000-00 for our operation. MR GOUWS: Yes, that is correct. Well he must have obtained permission from Mr de Kock, it was his operation, so he must have had his own orders. ... Also they said I must relate to the Committee the fact that they have sustained injuries. Yvonne Madlala informed me that she had to have an operation after this incident, after she sustained injuries, and she could not bear children any more. Esrom Mothagu informed me that ... ... I could only hear the voice of a man saying skiet (shoot) and it may be upon that assumption that one would assume that it’s a certain koevoet operation. That’s what comes into my mind I must ... MR LAMEY: Did you know or did you expect that there would be people in the building when the operation took place? ... again it was the [indistinct] of yet another Minister of State of the apartheid Government, Dr Viljoen who ironically was called Minister of Co-Operation and Development, who had announced that extra staff and transport were to be supplied to speedup preparations for the removal of residents ... So he underwent an operation. I went back to college at that time. What I didn't say; every time Eric was detained, it was the same Kombi of the security branch that fetched him. So it was the same people all the time. |
