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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 781 to 800 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 Next Page•Last PageADV MPSHE: Now, when you were told of the operation and you accompanied applicant number one, in your own mind what did you think the killing of Lombo would assist you with? MR LUFF: I really cannot comment on what Mrs Hardy did, but it is possible. It is possible that there was a curfew in operation at the time, but I cannot recall that. colleagues, I fully agree with them and I think that Mr Willemse who was, I believe, the most junior ranking person involved in the execution of the operation, he was a sergeant at the time at Vlakplaas, the same applies as far as he's a foot soldier is concerned, Mr Chairman. I therefore submit, ... CHAIRPERSON: What were their positions? How do they fit into this whole operation? "When those young boys were arrested they were arrested by the army unit and the police unit, Security Police, and that was a joint operation and we did it here into Botasxau. It was late in the evening. That is when they were arrested and they told us about their intentions. They were going to ... MR MOERANE: Who were in the units with whom you planned this operation? "Look, we've got our target, the policeman" and an hour later they have their weapons and they go into the house. It just seems that to arrange an operation like this, there had to be some form of planning and it seems clear, Chairperson, that yes, Mr Andrew Chauke did go to that house, he did ... "I also saw many weapons during the police operation at the hostel. When they were attacked the South African Police came to search the hostel and found a lot of firearms which they confiscated. No weapons were left, which resulted in Vanana Zulu telling us that everybody had to contribute so ... ... to protect the community. When the shooting took place he also aligned himself with the actions of his colleagues who also participated in this ... HOT PURSUIT OF OPERATION AT JOZINI ... which focuses on the role of health workers and through many of the testimonies that we've heard over the past year that the Commission has been in operation, we've heard of not only the brutality of the security police and other security personnel, but we've also heard of the callousness of some ... the deceased on 8 May 1985 and their subsequent killing by other members of the Security Police on the 9th or 10th of May was in fact one continuous operation or not would depend largely on the evidence of what transpired over the relevant period. It should also be kept in mind that it is ... the persons inside the shop. They escaped from the scene in their vehicle which waited for them outside the shop. They reported the success of the operation to Mtambo and also returned the weapons which he supplied. The Applicants and Mbambo were subsequently arrested and tried. Mbambo was ... ... two organisations seem to be working together, at both national and provincial levels and it cannot be controverted that the existing spirit of co-operation and apparent desire to bury the hatchet has gradually filtered down to their followers and respective constituencies. In the result there ... ... returned to Beaufort West. After approximately two weeks, he was informed that one "Mandla" (an alias) would be sent from Umtata to assist in the operation. He showed Mandla the layout of the area and briefed him about the plan for the attack. There is some doubt as to who Mandla is/was as ... ... until I got home. It was late at night. They were shooting in the air. Now, this hand of yours that has been damaged, how is it now after the operation? --- This left hand doesn't function properly as the right hand. I do not know what they did. I don't know whether they put in some ... ... in the Dawn Magazine which explained that both your sons were Commanders in MK and that they had been shot in a shootout with the police after an operation. They were actually named in the heros column of the Dawn Magazine. I am not sure if that was quite clear to ... MR VAN DYK: That is correct. I wouldn't say that his courage failed him completely, I think perhaps he didn't want to carry on with the operation, but after we spoke we then together, both of us went to the wooden house. "Look, we've got our target, the policeman" and an hour later they have their weapons and they go into the house. It just seems that to arrange an operation like this, there had to be some form of planning and it seems clear, Chairperson, that yes, Mr Andrew Chauke did go to that house, he did ... MR VISSER: He also said that after he had committed this task in co-operation with Mamome and Ramouseau, he reported back and you were not satisfied that they did not remove enough articles from that house and that you thought he had to remove more articles from that house to simulate a break-in. |