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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 861 to 880 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 Next Page•Last Pagesecond Applicant, asking what they wanted, 1st Applicant shot Mr Makhathini twice. He died as a result. They then left the scene and again the operation was reported to ... ... playing a double role of working as an informer for the ANC whilst at Vlakplaas. De Kock says the deceased was reported not to be giving full co-operation and he had been warned that he would have to be watched very ... MR BLACK: Now have you any grudges against any of these people who you say were present at the rehearsal and who conducted this operation? MR VISSER: With Gen Kat Liebenberg, did you also believe that it was an authorised operation? ... I was only allowed to communicate or talk to the police. There was a lot of pressure put on me from very early that morning. Of course after the operation the television was also present. I was a single parent at that stage and my daughter then was ten years old. In the days proceeding this ... ... what was happening. He said he could not say a word to me and I am also losing my job as they are saying I am ANC member and I cannot carry on the operation effectively. I decided, no, let it be, whatever can happen. Mum take over, there is nothing more I want to say. ... DR MGOJO: Did you undergo any operation? ... country at the time. When the person was picked up, it never occurred to him that the person could be seriously or fatally injured, but the whole operation went wrong when the deceased told them that he would return to the white area and an argument followed resulting in assaults and the ... ... the police station, but the guns would be handed over to members of Inkatha, and we decided amongst ourselves that we should launch a mission or an operation of some sort, with the intention of disarming members of the Inkatha and later killing them. The eight of us, I think there were about ... ... Mr Chairperson, Hugo on behalf of Mr de Kock. De Kock also applied for amnesty with regards to the Khanya House incident. He was in charge of the operation and I can tell you for record purposes, he did not say that General van der Merwe or Vlok gave any instructions. He is not going to say ... ... impression that I might be lazy, because I just don’t have a focus. It’s although I go blank and I can’t remember anything. Last year I’ve had a operation to my knee. I’m a [indistinct] , there I asked the doctors to try and establish whether I’ve lie - low or high blood pressure because I ... MR VISSER: What would members of your branch have done in participation in this operation? MR LAX: I am not going to waste time, the way you have written it here, is that everybody in the community knew that Msani had sold the brother out, the comrades then planned to kill him. It was after everybody knew, that they planned this operation and that doesn't tie in with your evidence. The applicant testified that he was a member of Cradoya who at the time was under the leadership of Mr Matthew Goniwe. The applicant in fact often visited Mr Goniwe but was under the direct command of a certain Mr Mhlauli. He testified that the latter ordered the operation. CHAIRPERSON: And what was his mood like? He had been abducted from Maseru, was he relatively affable or did you struggle to obtain co-operation from him? ... Thank you, gentlemen. And thank you all for your assistance today, I had thought that we would be proceeding longer than we have, but with the co-operation of all of you we have managed to get through it very quickly and this means we now adjourn till Monday morning. Are any of you here on ... ... a few comments. We wish to thank firstly the logistics officers for making this hearing a success and for everything they've done to put it into operation. We wish to thank the interpreters for being in attendance most of the time, or all the time and assisting in ... MR XABA: Sorry. What I meant was I didn’t want the Court to know that my aim of killing this person was because of my organisation’s objectives. It was an operation which I’ve planned. JUDGE PILLAY: I can understand that. I found out now that it happened but here is a brother of a person who was suspected, now why an operation so no one would know? I also think that if I were to explain further, we also indicated that we accepted their manner of operation, accept it and pleased about it, knowing that they were attempting to bring about stability. At the same time being aware that some people might get injured. |