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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 941 to 960 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last Page... of them. One of them was arrested by the police, the other went off on his own he very fairly confirmed that to us today, that there had been co-operation. And in those circumstances there appears to be no doubt whatsoever that the act was committed during the course of the political struggle ... ... to come to Botswana or people would come to Botswana. And in most cases these people came through perfectly legal channels. This was his style of operation. So this business about, was not the manner in which really he ... ... asked you how much you wanted you couldn't answer that question because it didn't know what it is that they were asking you, you didn't know what operation you were going on, you were going to carry out on their behalf, and hence you were confused as to how much you could ask ... served under him to do the necessary planning in collaboration with a Capt Baker from Pretoria Head Office. He specifically instructed that the operation should take place in such a manner that no injuries or loss of life would ... ... to come and work for him and he was going to pay me more. So, I left the first law firm and I worked with him, I worked for him. He was a one man operation at the time and I stayed with him up until now when I was forced to leave work because of arthritis. ... Can I just ask about your injury? It seems as though the emergency operation, the doctors were able to re-construct your eye, but you obviously still have consequences of that injury. Perhaps you can just give us some idea of what the side effects, or the consequences were of your injuries. ... ambulance was phoned and the ambulance took me to Groote Schuur. At the Groote Schuur Hospital I was admitted, they took me to the theatre for an operation. I think I came to at about 20 to nine. I was in a ward, lying on my back. But when I tried to speak I couldn't. There was some thing ... operation. Apologies Mr Falck, it’s very difficult to deal with evidence of this nature if there is this sort of distraction. Please, will you just respect the occasion and allow us to just work through the evidence. I’ll appreciate your co-operation, thank you. If you are sitting on the State Security Council, you must know what is happening in your country and there could never, and believe me, I was there, there could never have been an operation of that nature that wasn't highly organised. ... he did not reveal who killed the deceased. This behaviour was to be expected of him, given the nature and circumstances of the clandestine operation. We however, do not equivocally say that the killing of the three young men was totally unjustified in the circumstances. It was totally ... MR POTSANE: In terms of carrying out the operation. As I've already stated I was staying with the commander, that is Jabu Masina in Mamelodi and during the process of which, I think when the reconnaissance was started two weeks before, as Mr Masango has already said ...[intervention] MR VISSER: He also said that after he had committed this task in co-operation with Mamome and Ramouseau, he reported back and you were not satisfied that they did not remove enough articles from that house and that you thought he had to remove more articles from that house to simulate a break-in. MR VAN DYK: That is correct. I wouldn't say that his courage failed him completely, I think perhaps he didn't want to carry on with the operation, but after we spoke we then together, both of us went to the wooden house. CHAIRPERSON: I understand that this was not a matter of a simple interpretation, but it required the co-operation of a number of people including the applicant, but I gather we are now satisfied with the version that has been put up and we should, perhaps, mark it 35A so that it can go into the ... After the operation, I told this policeman that we did not do anything, there was no need for him to guard us and he left. I stayed in the hospital for three weeks and after that I was sent to prison. I stayed for three months in prison and I was released but had to go and report to the police ... ... in the Dawn Magazine which explained that both your sons were Commanders in MK and that they had been shot in a shootout with the police after an operation. They were actually named in the heros column of the Dawn Magazine. I am not sure if that was quite clear to ... ... us. Even if the arrests happened before we achieved our objective. It was in 1985 when we were still planning to bring the consumer boycott into operation, as we know that even before Judas Iscariot was there. I was arrested on the 12th of September, and therefore our plans to continue with ... "Look, we've got our target, the policeman" and an hour later they have their weapons and they go into the house. It just seems that to arrange an operation like this, there had to be some form of planning and it seems clear, Chairperson, that yes, Mr Andrew Chauke did go to that house, he did ... MR BOOYENS: And as far as you are concerned, if the Vlakplaas operation was disclosed it would be an effective piece of machinery, according to you perception, possibly it would have rendered it useless and so on, is that correct? ...(transcriber's interpretation) |
