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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 941 to 960 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageMS THABETHE: Yes, Mr Chair, and I would also like to add that the operation ...(indistinct) and Shabalala incident and Gordhan and Lalla will also be heard during that week as well. MR HATTINGH: Yes, he may not have been present there, but isn't it possible that you may have mentioned his name because you noticed him there at Soutpan with regard to this operation? CHAIRPERSON: As to the execution, that was, the decision was a general one, to kill these people and on the face of it, it was left to some trained group to put into operation. The 1st Applicant testified that he asked the 2nd Applicant to enlist the assistance of others so that the operation could be put into effect. This was done and Mzwakhe Shandu, the 3rd Applicant, Nyamezela Mkhung (deceased) and Thokozani Ngema were introduced to the Applicant. The plan was ... ... Chilies. Despite the fact that the unit split into two groups after having entered South Africa they clearly associated themselves with the whole operation as set out at the time of the initial briefing by ... ... if it happens in unnatural circumstances. You do not know exactly what the circumstances were and it is even worse as in your case, you get no co-operation from the police to assist you in finding out what exactly happened so that you can come to rest and peace and can accept how everything ... In my co-operation with Hintsa Siwisa, we could get the services of independent pathologists, but they only arrived on the Wednesday of that week. ... But they do not know what happened thereafter. They do not know the whole story as to what happened, especially with regard to the operation, my husband only knows what they did to me. My daughter-in-law said she wished to accompany me to this hearing, and she was going to hear ... Braam had had a prostrate operation in July 1974 and about two months after that he saw a Doctor Brand because he had an acute pain in the hip. He was not examined but he was given an analgesic and some physiotherapy. After two weeks with no relief, the physiotherapist referred him back to the ... ... get what I want done, okay? This is very important, you want to get something done, you really have to listen to who the other party is who you co-operation is with. If you only repeat yourself, you're the only one who hears it. You know, so it's wonderful, so you hear your voice you hear it ... I thought you did not want anyone to be aware of your intention to kill Mr Phumayo, least it leaks out? I thought you were the only one who was going to be involved in this operation, and nobody else? MR MAPOMA: And I take it that he never gave you instructions to go into that operation, am I correct? CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much. Thank you for your assistance and co-operation. It is unfortunate that sometimes hiccups occur in the course of hearings that tend to delay hearings and one must endeavour to try and avoid these hiccups. MR GUSHU: Certainly Mr Chairperson. If there was someone whilst I was busy shooting Msibi, there was someone inside, as I knew well, that there were people that were well trained inside the house, my operation would have failed then. MR BOOYENS: And you as well as the other members of the Technical Division were never placed in a position to consider the merits of an operation because you did not receive full details about it? MR VISSER: Thank you. Were you ever informed of any operation in which Mbulelo Ngono was involved in, in South Africa, or one of the so-called home States, homelands? CHAIRPERSON: And had they been brought there for the other operation? the 30th of October 1995. It is clear from that reply that the applicant was told that his application was being kept over until the Act comes into operation, whereafter it will be submitted for possible consideration to the relevant Committee which will be appointed for this purpose (Committee ... at the time. It would be a fair summary of the evidence to describe the situation as critical and almost an open war situation. Apla had launched operation Great Storm which involved a new pattern where according to the PAC representations to the TRC civilians within the white community were ... When I arrived there, they said that my eyes were completely damaged, but they will try to cure it. I was taken to theatre after some days - the Doctors were checking the damage and they did an operation on my right eye. |
