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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 961 to 980 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageMRS OLIFANT: I am not working, I am sick, I am just staying at home, I am sick. I have so many diseases, I have just done an operation now recently. MR NKOSI: His problem is that the operation is so extensive. And also his hands isn't well. They make it difficult for him to cope when it comes to work under heavy conditions or doing some tough work. MR LAX: I am not going to waste time, the way you have written it here, is that everybody in the community knew that Msani had sold the brother out, the comrades then planned to kill him. It was after everybody knew, that they planned this operation and that doesn't tie in with your evidence. ... he did not reveal who killed the deceased. This behaviour was to be expected of him, given the nature and circumstances of the clandestine operation. We however, do not equivocally say that the killing of the three young men was totally unjustified in the circumstances. It was totally ... ... what is implicit in the facts before the Committee is that the conspiracy to abduct and eventually kill the deceased, was in place before the operation set out, or set forth into Swaziland. ... CHAIRPERSON: Yes, thank you, Mr Swanepoel, I want to say something about you first. I want to thank you for your co-operation throughout your attendance here and the fairness you've displayed, it's impressed us. I thank you. MR KOOPEDI: Thank you Chairperson, we are indebted. Now, I would ask you to concentrate on the operation that involves you as in where you took part, the attack at the Administration offices, please briefly tell the Committee, this Honourable Committee, what happened on that day and how you went ... ... women and aged women and old men and everybody knew these people, knew their activities. I came back to the office. I was in charge of the entire operation and I suggested that he too, or should I say Beki, should be fetched, himself being the first one. And the intention with reference to ... the window of the hall adjoining the Soyco offices. Investigation the next day showed that minimum damage was caused and although they regarded the operation as unsuccessful, they nevertheless later formed the opinion that Soyco did curtail their activities at the Community ... ... according to the applicant, was sent back by him halfway across the street because he was too heavily under the influence to participate in the ... I am asking for a co-operation of the nature that shows me and satisfies me and this panel that we are dealing here with people who want to cooperate with us because they are appreciative of the issues which have to be canvassed before us. ... who was in charge that day - who actually gave the order to shoot, Captain ND Slabbert, was in fact the same Captain who was in charge of the operation on the day that Ronald Carollisen was killed. I have no further questions and will hand you back to the ... ... instruments. This cargo was never searched in Taipei where it was re-loaded and unfortunately none of this was recovered during the search operation. From most other consignments one or two pieces were recovered. There has been a lot of speculation over the years that some of the cargo ... ... action was allegedly a pre-requisite for the successful release of Charles Sebe. Applicant, however, indicates that all of the reasons for the operation are not known to him, although he speculates that the South African government at the time must have anticipated that Charles Sebe ... When the Applicant addressed Ngubane his response was the same, namely that he was crazy as well. Seeing that they were not going to secure any co-operation from Ngubane, they left. It was the Applicant, Motaung, Temba and his friend. Temba told them that some of his clothes were being kept at ... ... for amnesty in respect of three incidents described as Incidents 9, 14 and 15 in the list of incidents set out in our decision relating to Operation Butterfly (Ramlakan and 8 others). We do not propose setting out the facts again; suffice to say that we have decided that the ... ... in particular paragraph 2 thereof on page 9.a.ii on page 114, in his amnesty application this witness stated that he was involved in an operation which he ... MR MAKHUBALO: I will say these people assaulted me. For me not to remember who did what, who did what and what, but I would say they assaulted me. I couldn't have had the operation I had, I couldn't have these marks I have if they would come and say those things. ... against the very persons whom you had undertaken to protect, do you seriously want this Committee to believe that if he had not given his co-operation to you and your colleagues, that it was not reasonably foreseeable that he would be killed or at the very least seriously ... The Applicant emphasised that the reason why they embarked on the operation was because of the need to protect the members of the IFP against the onslaught from the ANC and that the IFP needed firearms for such protection. |
