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PassExplanation CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) any other questions relating to this incident that you would like to bring out? You may then pass on to the next event - you know, try and make it in sequence so that we can have a clearer picture of what is happening. I would then draw the attention of the Chairman and Members of the Board, we can pass my whole written argument up until page 32 where I will then take it to the evidence of the applicant, John McPherson. The whole discussion up until Section - page 32 is on the requirements of the Act, Section ... ... to leave, what would happen? Was there a decision in that meeting about what would happen to him if he refused to leave or to respect the "trek ... ... to the Tosi family. This Tosi man used to regard himself as an IFP leader in that particular area. We arrived at Tosi's place and we had to pass his place because we ran out of ammunition and we thought he could help us with ammunition. He gave us about eight rounds of ammunition and we ... MR MAPOMA: Do you want to show it to the Committee? Can you pass it? With your permission Mr Chair. Please tell us what happened. --- It was Sunday afternoon. I was passing, going home, and I saw a group of youths and I wanted to pass. And they said I should join them, I should help them, support them while they were singing. Yes, I joined them and I started singing along with them. A ... situations happen and how could they be prevented? And that should be part of the problem the TRC won't finish solving but part of that duty must be passed on. Not only to the teachers, and they need retraining because you can't expect the teachers who spent thirty five years not teaching about ... birth certificates. They used to arrest them. They came to the Dutch Reformed Church. I commanded my boys, together with them we went to burn the pass office with my boys and that is the sabotage that they charged me for. I would like you to please tell my brother's congregation that I am ... MR MALEVU: Yes, as a person who was staying in Newcastle, I used to pass the Crazy Beat so I knew, I saw that it was mostly white people who were frequenting the place. ... is not clear, I made a distance with that wall, that distance is when we saw him emanating from his house coming towards us. The road would pass close right next to the grass where we were lying, for example if we are lying where I am sitting, the road would go past where the speakers ... ADV DE JAGER: Were they on special duty there or did they only pass by and sleep there? ... went to a stage where Buthelezi Street was a demarcation line, members of IFP couldn't cross to the township and members of the community couldn't pass to - across and I've identified the deployment of the army, the Internal Stability around Thokoza. On the far left Koevoet had a base and at a ... ... department, which it is part and parcel of - the information which I get from the people in the street, then I, at the end of the day I pass it to my superior who is in charge of the investigation ... the only males that were circumcised were Jews, so even if the Jewish Men looked, could pass for Arian, right, if he were caught of course his identity as Jew would easily be found, you know, just drop your pants. So even in the conditions of hiding, they weren't able to provide for their families ... ... their beloved because of the incident I was involved in. I would like to apologise for what happened during the conflicts in Pietermaritzburg. I pass my sincerest apologies even though that may not help them because they have already lost their loved ones. I would like the Committee to help me ... MR VAN ZYL: We then travelled with the two vehicles in the direction of the Olifantshoek Pass. I drove with my vehicle and along the road, we found a suitable place where we stopped and parked the two vehicles off the road from where we could actually observe the road. ... their beloved because of the incident I was involved in. I would like to apologise for what happened during the conflicts in Pietermaritzburg. I pass my sincerest apologies even though that may not help them because they have already lost their loved ones. I would like the Committee to help me ... ... problem which I experienced would be that I would be there at approximately dusk, observing the house and people would become restless, they would pass the vehicle, look into the vehicle. Upon one or two occasions I asked people for directions, I obtained the names of certain surrounding ... MR KOOLE: It's not correct Chairperson, when we go from Golele, you pass Josini dam. The dam is between Golele and Piet Retief, the dam is in between the two places. ... it was a Government created platform. It had been discredited because of its inability to improve the lot of black people, particularly under the pass laws, but nevertheless, it decided as a last resort to send its Committee on Education with the hope that because it was a statutory body ... |