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PassExplanation MR MOGOAI: My Lord, let me explain this to you. While these cars were driving, one would pass the rest and park alongside the road and we would drive passed and then he would follow us, just like that. MS VAN DER WALT: How did you pass the border? and those were difficult times. I'm not sure of that first aspect. When he told me this after Ndaba had returned, I could recollect it, but it did pass me by for quite a long ... MR HATTINGH: On your way back from Penge Mine could you pass judgement by what you observed or what Mr de Kock said to you as to how he felt about the situation? You obviously know what you said in your statement to the ITU, and there's quite a lengthy passage about you becoming disenchanted with the IFP and that you decided that you wanted to go back to the ANC, that you had discussions with the various people and that eventually - I think the gist of it ... CHAIRPERSON: We do not have comforting words that we can pass to you. We understand the hurt that you experienced. We pray God Almighty that He may bless you and let it be Him who will be gracious to you together with everybody who is here and a lot of them who are not here who will sympathise ... ... one occasion that he should resign. I can dwell for hours on the distressing relations which existed between us. I am not here today, however, to pass judgement. After all, all of us stand to be judged one day and I am painfully aware of my own sins and ... I went to Piet Retief that day because there was a source from Swaziland who had come there regarding a discussion of an attack on persons who would pass through via Amsterdam with weapons which they intended to use for acts of terrorism in the Transvaal section there. ... were issued through the Department of the then Chief Minister, M G Buthelezi, to headmen and chiefs. These headmen and chiefs were then able to pass these weapons on through use of permits to members under their control. The G3 rifles were officially issued for the protection of KwaZulu ... ... Wesselsbron. I left on Friday deliberately late in the afternoon, around six to seven o'clock, knowing that the taxi would take me next to, would pass next to the supermarket. I alighted the taxi at the taxi rank, becuase they were waiting for taxis from the township, because that taxi started ... MR LOWIES: Did you have to show your pass at the gates? CHAIRPERSON: Yes, because I think the thing was, he was in fact a member of APLA and PAC and he was abusing that membership to pass information on. we were doing. We said we were not trying to do anything bad, the only thing we were trying to do was to show that we were not approving of the dom pass and the other oppressive laws that operated at the time. We were then severely persecuted and then left alone again and then it would start ... Did you pass by the deceased's house seeing the group gathered at the deceased's house on your way I mean, to your fiancé’s home? MR PRINSLOO: Did you pass on such information or provide such information to Mr Deetliefs? MR BIZOS: When did he pass away? a useless witness, we must disregard whatever he said, but he brought that information, it wasn't in his interests to manufacture information, or to pass through incorrect ... that we were called to this helicopter field where we all met and this person came and explained to us about this situation. And Matshibini who has passed away now, came he stood up and told them that we want to be represented in the parliament and we want the pass laws not to exist and we don't ... ... One other thing that adds to this. One of the chiefs who's now late, who said he will plough in KwaMnyandu sugar cane. Even today when you pass by that place you see trees more than houses, because people were so scared, they were traumatised about that, that they don't wish to go back ... ... to reveal their own identities to Mr Wagener and whether they would be prepared to meet with him at all, and assuming that the latter comes to pass, it is probable Mr Chairman, that the two gentlemen in question will probably disguise themselves from Mr Wagener. It is something which we ... |