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MR PHOSA: Look I’ve given you enough opportunity to deal with that, let’s pass on. You are aware that Mr Mthimkhulu though and Mr Madaka perhaps - let’s talk about one Mr Mthimkhulu, alleged that he was assaulted whilst in detention in your area under your command.

... to members of that family. Here I was being a member of MK talking to people who had been terrorised and maimed and yet could do nothing except pass the information to Peace ...

MR SANDI: When did he pass away? When you were attacked or was it on a separate case?

very ten Saracens were used in Sharpeville to mow down people. So we were busy campaigning and fighting against the influx and pass laws. So we decided to protest and we got to Orlando East. Thereafter we were locked in.

As I’m talking, I’m in so much pain. The pain doesn’t end, physically as well as mentally. Each time I pass where the attack took place, I get panic attacks. I don’t know how I can phrase this in any clearer way than what I’ve already said. Now I’m wondering as to whether this forgiveness they ...

... target" and when we got nearer, you see the road on which we were travelling was so narrow, such that one car had to wait for another in order to pass and this white person stopped and Ashley was driving and we had firearms. I was carrying a rifle and Moses Motapo and Lebohang had a hand ...

... is that correct? They could contact their commanders through the intervention of Mtura. They could phone the restaurant and he would be able to pass on information or give them information, is that ...

MS M MOLETE: It's very far, that place is behind the shacks at the back. You move through that passage at number 15 and number 17 and there are also other shacks that you have to pass through before you arrive at that dumping place.

MR HATTINGH: At that time when the motivation for the operation was extended to you, did you pass any judgement regarding the necessity of such an operation?

I went into my room and I took a firearm that had been in my possession. I went to wait for him at a spot where I knew he would pass by. It was near the taxi rank. I waited there until the afternoon and he appeared at some point, I cannot remember the time. I then followed him. He was driving ...

MR PHAMA: We did not do anything to the young ones, we let them pass and the older people, those are the people that we shot at, but the group that was in front of them we did nothing to them. That is why I am saying that was not the very first group. If there were other people who were coming, ...

ADV GCABASHE: When did he pass away?

... to a policeman, means he must now hand him over to some other body, or do you think it means Botha will continue to get the information and he will pass the information on to de ...

MR SAMBO: As I was standing there, I saw a car going, pass by and it came back again. They came and they entered my home. As I was there next to the car, I thought maybe that they are people from the garages, then I approached them. I got Mr van der Spuy next to the BMW opening the doors, the ...

MR RICHARD: Now did you - were you lucky on the first pass?

ADV DE JAGER: Did they visit him in the room or did they only pass along?

MR BOOYENS: Just a further aspect, I’d like to take you back to - yesterday you testified to the fact of how you stopped the people at Olifants Pass. The identification of these four persons, how was this done?

ADV BOSMAN: To who, to who did they pass on the information?

... the people were so angry, a day after that, they went to Sonestraal Road where earlier on, they waited and waited there for one particular bus to pass through and it never passed and finally it was the incident of Mrs de Lange which sort of happened there, where because of the anger, she was ...

There was an intervention by Mr Semenya, where he complained about the process, I’ll by-pass that and go on to page 19 where I go on.