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PassExplanation Showing 501 to 520 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 Next Page•Last PageNow, to get to this women’s house, we had to pass the beer hall and when we passed behind the beer hall a policeman, Steve Mbushwa arrived on the scene and he wanted to disperse us. And we were quite a sizeable group together and we were singing and walking passed the beer hall and then the sort ... MR BOOYENS: Just a further aspect, I’d like to take you back to - yesterday you testified to the fact of how you stopped the people at Olifants Pass. The identification of these four persons, how was this done? ADV DE JAGER: Did they visit him in the room or did they only pass along? ... people who were taking our messages to the Chief's kraal, because we were too little (indistinct) we had to tell them what they were supposed to pass on to the Chief. If there was anything that the Chief wanted to know, the Chief would tell induna Matlala and induna Matlala would tell us. If ... ... you went to see Comrade Jackie and Peter Mokaba but you received no reply from them, whereas in your chief evidence you said they said they will pass the information over to comrade Africa who will take it to the Peace Forum and it will be dealt with from there. So these two conflicting ... MR SINGO: I did standard six, but I did not pass that standard. MR ALBERTS: My question is how come that you could not pass through that area any more? MR KRIEL: No, because if I remember correctly we had more than one Victor in the service, and for me just to say that he was the one would be very - it would be un- I cannot say that to the Commission because I honestly don't know, and I will be lying to you if I pass any comment on that. MS MTJALI: It is not good at all. We have tried to engage the street committee but this old man does not want to understand. He'll always insult my mother. When my mother passes by to the shop he will always say to my mother she should not pass there and he will insult her. ... why. This person probably had access to information about informers, about information about reports that came in etc. etc. which he could pass on to the enemy. With great respect, Chairperson, if Botha tells you that it was important to find it out there's no reason to doubt that ... ... waited years to be shed. It is in order that truth should be uncovered and justice seen to be done. Even though it is not the work of the TRC to pass judgement or sentence on the oppressors, it has led many perpetrators of crimes to seek amnesty. That is good for them. The Chairman may speak ... that that is Molope seated. They were seated under a tree or next to a police, a green police van. It wasn't as close as we are now because we were passing. They were also underground. I couldn't stay there for hours looking and checking his complexion, checking his height and all those things. ... ... My question is, because you were related to this family and you're now alleging that they were IFP members that's why they were attacked, did you pass on this information to your comrades, that you know that those people because they're relatives, you have information that they are IFP members ... MR OBOSE: And to be given instructions by the head of State and or the counsel and they would in turn pass it on to the police? ... I left messages. There was a certain gentleman who always answered these calls, I think he was called Mofukeng, then Mofukeng would say, he would pass the messages over to Chris Hani, but no reply, and I thought to myself that I'm just wasting my time here. So I went on and on asking everybody, ... ... on a board, writing AWB. I didn't understand that these people would assault. But they went to Skietbaan and then my mistress asked that we should pass through. Then they - on Friday, I went to work. I came back from work. Then I slept. It was at daybreak at about quarter to five. I could hear ... MR HATTINGH: Now as the commander of Vlakplaas, did you in the morning directly go to Vlakplaas or did you have to pass by head office first? MR SAMBO: As I was standing there, I saw a car going, pass by and it came back again. They came and they entered my home. As I was there next to the car, I thought maybe that they are people from the garages, then I approached them. I got Mr van der Spuy next to the BMW opening the doors, the ... ... to a policeman, means he must now hand him over to some other body, or do you think it means Botha will continue to get the information and he will pass the information on to de ... MR RICHARD: Now did you - were you lucky on the first pass? |