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PassExplanation Showing 521 to 540 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 Next Page•Last Pagethat at some stage there was a breakdown in the desired line of communication where the political organ of the PAC in ...[indistinct] were unable to pass on the decisions that would have a military impact and it was then said that as a result of the breakdown of that communication, local ... MR RICHARD: That's not correct. The trial court had this report before it at the stage of sentence, not before trial and despite hearing it saw fit to pass the death sentence. That's where this report fits into the trial. MR MVELASE: On asking him, he indicated that he was going to pass it on to other leaders. MR HATTINGH: And we heard something of a heart by-pass operation that had to be paid? ADV GCABASHE: What you are saying is that it is possible that the other one was not there, he had gone off to pass water or whatever, it is possible? MR NYAWUZA: Mr Makhanye, if I hear you correctly the deceased had come from the counter, he put the beers down and he went in the direction of the toilet. In what direction? Did he have to pass by your table or was the toilet away from your table? MR WILLIAMS: Do you know as a fact who was supposed to verify that information? Who had to pass the information on? ... whole issue, as to who abducted Pat. They don't remember who abducted Pat, more especially the guys who are the officials, most of them tried to pass the buck. And then the family, along these lines, is very disturbed but we are not here to judge because now what we are here to listen to, is ... ... place. We can't judge whether they were on a frolic on their own or not, by Cronje or Hechter, they have no knowledge of this incident. They can pass no judgement on that incident and I think the evidence is that they were reliable people in general and they should accept their word or what ... MR NADASEN: Thank you. Mr Mdletshe, you said that, did you complete standard 3, did you pass standard 3? the military vehicles around that area. They were moving I think between Block H and Block F in Soshanguve and one of the military vehicles used to pass there. I went to Ting-Ting and briefed him about this and on the particular day we went there during the day to show Ting-Ting the spot and get ... ... proportionality as the Act charges us to do, Mr Chairman within the context of the conflict of the past, this particular matter certainly must pass that test of proportionality and for that statement, for that submission we rely on previous amnesty applications and decisions handed down by ... ... such and such a place, or yesterday we did this and that and tomorrow we have to do this and that and we have to close this road and if the police pass here we have to dig big holes so that police Casspirs can fall in there and we can throw petrol bombs there", that's how stupid they were at ... ... hiding but still looking after it so that when you realise that this is not a person who is attacking you should remove it so that the person can pass. It so happened in many times in the past that this thing of judging others racially and referring to people as Xhosas and Zulus, that shall be ... MS GCABASHE: Yes, but what did you then pass on to your men, you know, you had no timeframes, you knew you did not want to injure persons, that was the instruction, when would this have to be done to make sure that these things in fact did not happen, you know, people were not injured? ... very much for telling us your side of the story. After Ruth has spoken, I would like to make some comments about your testimony as well. Could we pass the microphone on to Ruth, please. Ruth, are you going to speak in Xhosa or in ... ... back 20 years. You have the loss now and the silence that you were suffering. Thank you very much for that. I have no further questions. I will pass you back to the Chair, thank ... ... he came, it was about in November when he was already buried, our son, he came at a time when one of our comrades Chris Hani had died. Then he passed by our house just to pass and convey sympathies to us saying that he knew this child, he underwent military training with him and how he ... When proceeding towards the north, where the war between the Zulus and the English people took place is the very same place where the roads have to pass through. That's ... ... a satisfactory basis what their motive was, what the circumstances were, what the special objective was and whether or not it was proportional. To pass the buck the way they all did here from the lowest to the highest is evidence of the fact that they were not bona fide, that they merely entered ... |