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PassExplanation Showing 541 to 560 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last Page Let me repeat, I went to Mrs Mandela to request her to release these minors into my care so I can pass them on to somebody else. Whether that amounts to a discussion or negotiation Mr Chairman, really I can’t tell you. ADV GCABASHE: And then you were then supposed to pass this message on to others, was this the idea? MR MBANE: When you go to that room you would pass the veranda and then go through that room. ... you were returning from Mishak, your brother-in-law's home, at the time you were fired at. Now the following is also a simple question, did you pass the police station before you were fired at or had you still to arrive at the police ... MR MALINDI: So if you knew of this unit of highly trained members of MK, your priority was not to pass on information so that they get arrested when they go out on operations, your priority was to recruit them as informers? MR J MBANE:: Yes. I was not reporting on a daily basis, but after a day or two, because...I would skip a day or two or even a week before phoning. But some of our people with this operation, you would pass by in a patrol car. the principles we agreed upon as a unit, the ...[indistinct] detachment, so under those operational circumstances we went into the Alice line and we passed Alice there was a hastily prepared roadblock by the SAP. I mean the - it was pretty obvious it was a roadblock hastily prepared for a ... MS NARKEDIEN: Well, I don't know if we passed that hotel, but I know we passed most of the hotels, so probably we did pass that one. this process and I am no longer optimistic enough that I will get my son's bones, but maybe, seeing that you are still very young, a minute if I can pass away, then you will have to take over". ... ... where the bag was with the spring-charge and I saw that it was still on the other side of the gate. I climbed onto the gate and asked McPherson to pass the bag to me. He passed the bag to me, it was a canvass bag, I can't recall exactly what colour it was, I hear that it was green but I can't ... ... So the mere fact that a far stronger explosive device was used, and was placed at a point to which non suspecting members of the public had to pass, would you say that that was reasonable steps taken to avoid the possibility of injury to unsuspecting members of the public? According to you, ... "Charl Naude told us that he had agents in Botswana and that he would arrange for one of those agents to pass on the information when Mnisi was in the vehicle and McKenzie not being in the vehicle at the time, so that the bomb could be activated by means of remote control." MR DE KOCK: Yes Chairperson, there was a gate there which was locked and one had to pass the guards or the security division of Penge Mine and one had to collect the keys for the gate from them and the members in control of the security division there had to be informed as to how long one would be ... MS TANZER: Did you pass a hostel on the way? MR RICHARD: Was handed between R1 000 and R1 500 to pass on to Joe Tsawela by the late Sophie Masithi. the military vehicles around that area. They were moving I think between Block H and Block F in Soshanguve and one of the military vehicles used to pass there. I went to Ting-Ting and briefed him about this and on the particular day we went there during the day to show Ting-Ting the spot and get ... ... place. We can't judge whether they were on a frolic on their own or not, by Cronje or Hechter, they have no knowledge of this incident. They can pass no judgement on that incident and I think the evidence is that they were reliable people in general and they should accept their word or what ... ... proportionality as the Act charges us to do, Mr Chairman within the context of the conflict of the past, this particular matter certainly must pass that test of proportionality and for that statement, for that submission we rely on previous amnesty applications and decisions handed down by ... ... such and such a place, or yesterday we did this and that and tomorrow we have to do this and that and we have to close this road and if the police pass here we have to dig big holes so that police Casspirs can fall in there and we can throw petrol bombs there", that's how stupid they were at ... ... a satisfactory basis what their motive was, what the circumstances were, what the special objective was and whether or not it was proportional. To pass the buck the way they all did here from the lowest to the highest is evidence of the fact that they were not bona fide, that they merely entered ... |