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ADV BIZOS: Yes, but I am talking about Mr Goosen. Mr Goosen wasn't in the room, he must have got the information from you and your colleagues in order to pass it on to his Minister, to your Minister and his Minister?

MR PHAMA: We did not do anything to the young ones, we let them pass and the older people, those are the people that we shot at, but the group that was in front of them we did nothing to them. That is why I am saying that was not the very first group. If there were other people who were coming, ...

MR DU PREEZ: Chairperson, that is a place where many taxis pass during the day so at that time during the night it was a quiet place, but during the day it's a very busy place.

... mark come into my mind. In the middle of the night there's a van parked, his lights off, next to a stadium in a dark corner. Immediately when we pass, cars were in front of us but when our car passed they put on their lights and immediately follow us. To my mind comes up that the first thing ...

MR NYAWUZA: That issue was discussed and it transpired that Mr Nyawuza had a vehicle and he could be asked to transport us to that place. Mr Mthambo then ordered them to pass by Mr Nyawuza's home to inform them that he should take us to Ngonyameni on Friday.

You would never see them again because otherwise they would pass on the secret of how to make money, and it was that myth I think, arose out of protection of yourself because you don't want to believe that someone actually was hanged, but more than that, because you were never allowed to see the ...

... of the past and if we go on and on and on doing that we will not have time for national unity and nation building, but having said that, we will pass on that as part of the recommendations. Thank you very much ... ...

I went into my room and I took a firearm that had been in my possession. I went to wait for him at a spot where I knew he would pass by. It was near the taxi rank. I waited there until the afternoon and he appeared at some point, I cannot remember the time. I then followed him. He was driving ...

... target" and when we got nearer, you see the road on which we were travelling was so narrow, such that one car had to wait for another in order to pass and this white person stopped and Ashley was driving and we had firearms. I was carrying a rifle and Moses Motapo and Lebohang had a hand ...

As I’m talking, I’m in so much pain. The pain doesn’t end, physically as well as mentally. Each time I pass where the attack took place, I get panic attacks. I don’t know how I can phrase this in any clearer way than what I’ve already said. Now I’m wondering as to whether this forgiveness they ...

MR PHOSA: Look I’ve given you enough opportunity to deal with that, let’s pass on. You are aware that Mr Mthimkhulu though and Mr Madaka perhaps - let’s talk about one Mr Mthimkhulu, alleged that he was assaulted whilst in detention in your area under your command.

MR HATTINGH: At that time when the motivation for the operation was extended to you, did you pass any judgement regarding the necessity of such an operation?

MS M MOLETE: It's very far, that place is behind the shacks at the back. You move through that passage at number 15 and number 17 and there are also other shacks that you have to pass through before you arrive at that dumping place.

ADV MPSHE: Alright, let's pass that one. In your application this is what you have all mentioned and I will quote it because I'm talking to you now. Under paragraph 10(a) where it says: State Political Objective you achieved, amongst others you say

MR HOLDER: Well Mr de Meillon said we had to pass there, go and see how many guards there were, what arms we could get there.

MR MABUZA: Just before you get to the hostel, you have to pass a few streets. The street that I have mentioned. Between Schoeman Road, the Schoeman Road was the boundary between the ANC and the IFP, we had to fight the people who were nearer to the boundary.

... is that correct? They could contact their commanders through the intervention of Mtura. They could phone the restaurant and he would be able to pass on information or give them information, is that ...

MR VISSER: Well, Chairperson, that makes the test a very hard one to pass. First of all I may submit to you that there is of course no onus of proof before you. We know that on the authorities, I thought that had been accepted. You have to be satisfied not even on a balance of probabilities that ...

... stated, I was able to experience. For example, within the Defence Force, you'd find that at times there would be a white person who'd just come and pass at the gate, wanting to see General Temmer, then the following day that person would be employed on higher ...

instructions as to what we had to do. The command wanted us to stay and collect as much information as possible, which information we would in turn pass on, but then we felt that it was not safe because they would discover what mission we had come for and that would be the end of ...