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PassExplanation Showing 721 to 740 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 Next Page•Last Pagewe do in that sense, or approached, would have been operational in nature. We do not know what can happen, we do not know what would happen if they pass me first of all, who they were, what the nature of it was and if they killed any of my members. And right through the world with Special ... Schoon from 1983 to '85. I was thentransferred as divisional commander to Northern Transvaal, Pretoriauntil June 1987. Then I underwent a heart by-pass operation andwas declared unfit. MR DU PLESSIS: Brigadier Cronjethis general background which you have given us and which youset out in your ... ADV LAMEY: Was there an indication given as to how many hours had to pass before it could be determined whether the coast was clear - if the coast was clear as you put it yourself. MR LEWIN: Thank you very much, Mama. I will pass you back to the Chairperson. ... bank with the hostages, he took another taxi to follow this one and then when the hostages got out in kwaNdwese, he instructed the taxi driver to pass them, so when other members of the unit arrived, Mabutwa was already there. So I congratulated them because all the members were safe and they ... ... a satisfactory basis what their motive was, what the circumstances were, what the special objective was and whether or not it was proportional. To pass the buck the way they all did here from the lowest to the highest is evidence of the fact that they were not bona fide, that they merely entered ... ... So the mere fact that a far stronger explosive device was used, and was placed at a point to which non suspecting members of the public had to pass, would you say that that was reasonable steps taken to avoid the possibility of injury to unsuspecting members of the public? According to you, ... MR MALAN: Did you stop on this road, on this road where other vehicles could pass? MR DE KOCK: Yes Chairperson, there was a gate there which was locked and one had to pass the guards or the security division of Penge Mine and one had to collect the keys for the gate from them and the members in control of the security division there had to be informed as to how long one would be ... ... that were held with him and the events at that particular point in time, you deal thereafter in paragraphs 31 and 32, with how it came to pass that you were then ultimately released from detention and in 33 through to 38, you then deal with your involvement with de Kock and his ... To pass that, I also wish to submit, Chairperson, Honourable Committee Members that all that was done or admitted to have been done before you by the applicants, none of the applicants received anything that is materially beneficial to them, there was no material personal gain. It is also my ... MR DEHAL: And apart from Mr Webster's independent recall(?), also on one occasion Mr McBride said he was on a social outing and he happened to pass this place and he had his eye on the Why Not as well. the police working in the police station. We saw one policeman going to the direction of Monaheng Section. We followed him. I decided to rush and pass him so that I confront him directly and Eugene Madikane and Gift Mosiya were to come from behind. I drew my Tokaroff pistol and stopped him by ... ... in August, but in December the police decided that they had had enough and I was banned. The conditions were so strict, I was not even allowed to pass a book to my wife. I could not have anything to do with any media whatsoever, and that lasted for three years. Derrick Jackson who operated in ... CHAIRPERSON: But you came through veld to get where you were, or did you have to pass other shacks to get to where you were where you placed the bomb? MR NGXONGO: When I made this application it is not clear on my application about the involvement of the leaders of IFP therefore if this application were to pass in any hands of a member of IFP they were going to approve it and they were not going to return it back to me. MR MHLONGO: That is not correct. As the unit commander, I was supposed to make sure whether it was true, and I had to give the general commander a report back, and he was supposed to move and pass it on to the underground structure, and the underground structure was supposed to then verify. MR CHASKALSON: Can you discuss or pass a comment on the interest in certain toxin which could cause death, but which would not be located in a post mortem? ... I was requested to make a few words, and then I was able to stand up and I was able to convey this message, that all of us who are here, we will pass this road. Nobody knows when he would go, nobody knows the day when he would die. If there was a tape-recorder that day you would hear me saying ... MR LEWIN: Thank you very much, Mr Shongwe, I will pass you back to the Chair. Thank you. |