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PassExplanation Showing 721 to 740 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 Next Page•Last PageMR MALAN: Did you stop on this road, on this road where other vehicles could pass? MR DE KOCK: Yes Chairperson, there was a gate there which was locked and one had to pass the guards or the security division of Penge Mine and one had to collect the keys for the gate from them and the members in control of the security division there had to be informed as to how long one would be ... ... that were held with him and the events at that particular point in time, you deal thereafter in paragraphs 31 and 32, with how it came to pass that you were then ultimately released from detention and in 33 through to 38, you then deal with your involvement with de Kock and his ... ... a satisfactory basis what their motive was, what the circumstances were, what the special objective was and whether or not it was proportional. To pass the buck the way they all did here from the lowest to the highest is evidence of the fact that they were not bona fide, that they merely entered ... MR NGUBANE: He telling the truth. He is now - the chief, Inkosi did pass away now he is succeeding. ... the Khumalo gang that is. Once they shoot you and pretend as if you are, and fall on the ground and pretend as if you are dead, they will just pass, they would not inspect as to whether you have died or what ... ... of the End Conscription Campaign and other organizations that were involved in anti-apartheid work in those days that I am somehow not qualified to pass an opinion on these matter? I think just get to the ... ... in December, late in December, round about the 21st of 25th. We went to Mozambique. In Mozambique it was evident that we would not be able to pass through at the same time, because they needed so many people to celebrate January the eighth which I think was the ANC's birthday. We then ... you could feed people anything and get it from anywhere and feed them. Just help me understand where you'd get your information from, how you would pass it on to other people, who would approve the information that you were passing on, how true, who could verify what you were passing on and how ... MR SMUTS: And you sought to target people in this campaign on the basis of information which was not of such a nature that you were prepared to pass it on to your superiors? We decided to pass and come from the other angle, because the other angle, it gave us more opportunity and more chance of not hitting the civilians which were drinking, sitting and drinking there. MR VISSER: In fairness to you, I'm going to argue that on the probabilities it would seem logical, that once you have a network you would utilise that network for all purposes of advancing the struggle and not selectively only as you now explain, to pass communications. MS SEROKE: We have listened to your story and then we will pass this to the next phase. You know that we don't have any powers to meet people's requests, but we will forward those to a further phase. Thank you. ... no direction about my child. I said I’d brought him food and clothing. They said that he was full. He’d taken porridge and coffee. I phoned to pass on a message that my husband should go to the police and find out what’s happening. The next door neightbour’s child said that somebody from ... MS SEROKE: We shall pass the recommendation to the Reparation and Rehabilitation Committee. I thank you very much. ... I was requested to make a few words, and then I was able to stand up and I was able to convey this message, that all of us who are here, we will pass this road. Nobody knows when he would go, nobody knows the day when he would die. If there was a tape-recorder that day you would hear me saying ... Now this happened also from the start of MK. We attacked Pass offices, but we tried to attack them when the people were not there. We even have in Durban, in the trial of the first comrades in 1963, I think it is Ebrahim Ismail, Ronnie was part of that group of terrorists - (laughter) - where in ... MR LEWIN: Thank you very much, Mr Shongwe, I will pass you back to the Chair. Thank you. We went to the scene. When we arrived at the scene at Roosevelt and Fourth we were shot at. Then we stopped. We radioed our office that we cannot pass through there because we were shot. The people are shooting us from the hostel. There came a police Casper who went in front of that person. ... CHAIRPERSON: I don't think I'm going to allow that. We are concerned with the amnesty application by people who have applied before us. We are not going to pass judgment on Mr Taylor, we're not going to make an assessment on Mr Taylor's achievements or demerits. Do you understand? |