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PassExplanation Showing 781 to 800 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 Next Page•Last PageMR HATTINGH: And if one drives past there, one would pass within 50 metres of it? MR VAN HEERDEN: No, he's too scared to take responsibility for what happened and he's trying to pass the buck to others. MR MBANDAZAYO: No, Chairperson, in fact I will pass that one. Let met - my last point to ask you, do you know the motto of the PAC? ... that were held with him and the events at that particular point in time, you deal thereafter in paragraphs 31 and 32, with how it came to pass that you were then ultimately released from detention and in 33 through to 38, you then deal with your involvement with de Kock and his ... MR DE KOCK: Yes Chairperson, there was a gate there which was locked and one had to pass the guards or the security division of Penge Mine and one had to collect the keys for the gate from them and the members in control of the security division there had to be informed as to how long one would be ... ... a satisfactory basis what their motive was, what the circumstances were, what the special objective was and whether or not it was proportional. To pass the buck the way they all did here from the lowest to the highest is evidence of the fact that they were not bona fide, that they merely entered ... ... bank with the hostages, he took another taxi to follow this one and then when the hostages got out in kwaNdwese, he instructed the taxi driver to pass them, so when other members of the unit arrived, Mabutwa was already there. So I congratulated them because all the members were safe and they ... we do in that sense, or approached, would have been operational in nature. We do not know what can happen, we do not know what would happen if they pass me first of all, who they were, what the nature of it was and if they killed any of my members. And right through the world with Special ... MR MALAN: Did you stop on this road, on this road where other vehicles could pass? MR NGUBANE: He telling the truth. He is now - the chief, Inkosi did pass away now he is succeeding. ... in December, late in December, round about the 21st of 25th. We went to Mozambique. In Mozambique it was evident that we would not be able to pass through at the same time, because they needed so many people to celebrate January the eighth which I think was the ANC's birthday. We then ... you could feed people anything and get it from anywhere and feed them. Just help me understand where you'd get your information from, how you would pass it on to other people, who would approve the information that you were passing on, how true, who could verify what you were passing on and how ... MR SMUTS: And you sought to target people in this campaign on the basis of information which was not of such a nature that you were prepared to pass it on to your superiors? ... the Khumalo gang that is. Once they shoot you and pretend as if you are, and fall on the ground and pretend as if you are dead, they will just pass, they would not inspect as to whether you have died or what ... Schoon from 1983 to '85. I was thentransferred as divisional commander to Northern Transvaal, Pretoriauntil June 1987. Then I underwent a heart by-pass operation andwas declared unfit. MR DU PLESSIS: Brigadier Cronjethis general background which you have given us and which youset out in your ... ADV LAMEY: Was there an indication given as to how many hours had to pass before it could be determined whether the coast was clear - if the coast was clear as you put it yourself. ... were made or kept, because it was unnecessary. Most of the communication was verbal between myself and MHQ and occasionally comrade Chris would pass through the region, and we would chat and he would indicate a few things of progress, but similarly the simple fact was that given the structure ... ... you ever involved, it's not referring to the day it's referring to other incidents of crowd control. Now could you respond please so that we can pass on to the next question. I mean it doesn't matter if this is the first time fine, say so, all I want to know was it the first time or are there ... MR RADEBE: We used to see each other. When I got to town I used to pass at the head office, then we used to meet. ... whole issue, as to who abducted Pat. They don't remember who abducted Pat, more especially the guys who are the officials, most of them tried to pass the buck. And then the family, along these lines, is very disturbed but we are not here to judge because now what we are here to listen to, is ... |