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out the very same night. And then I took whatever I took even though the house was guarded. They came hourly. After one hour they would pass by, some would knock. They would come inside. They took every material that I had in the house. They took my books and everything.

MR TAYLOR: I see that it says that me or us three and three other black policemen were present and that is not the version that I recall because it the pick-up point which is being referred to here, if that is the Oliphantskop pass, there were only three of us there, myself, van Zyl and Lotz.

MR PRIOR: How did he pass away?

... anyone after 8 o'clock at night in the location in the streets and a person like myself who was wearing ordinary location clothes, would not even pass by, so he is the one, he had a hand in the killing of my friend and he did not like people like us in the ...

... those roads. We have stayed there for three days reconnoitring that place. After we find that there was no car in the whole three days that has passed through that road, then we decided that only a military vehicle and a helicopter, then the helicopter, they were having another observation ...

MR CORNELIUS: But you come in from Pretoria's side, you pass Rob Ferreira Hospital on the right-hand side and then if you drive straight you drive right past the police station on your way to kaNyamazane.

MR PRIOR: And you allowed the vehicle then to pass over the bridge?

I went into my room and I took a firearm that had been in my possession. I went to wait for him at a spot where I knew he would pass by. It was near the taxi rank. I waited there until the afternoon and he appeared at some point, I cannot remember the time. I then followed him. He was driving ...

MR HATTINGH: At that time when the motivation for the operation was extended to you, did you pass any judgement regarding the necessity of such an operation?

MR DU PREEZ: Chairperson, that is a place where many taxis pass during the day so at that time during the night it was a quiet place, but during the day it's a very busy place.

MR PHAMA: We did not do anything to the young ones, we let them pass and the older people, those are the people that we shot at, but the group that was in front of them we did nothing to them. That is why I am saying that was not the very first group. If there were other people who were coming, ...

... mark come into my mind. In the middle of the night there's a van parked, his lights off, next to a stadium in a dark corner. Immediately when we pass, cars were in front of us but when our car passed they put on their lights and immediately follow us. To my mind comes up that the first thing ...

MR NYAWUZA: That issue was discussed and it transpired that Mr Nyawuza had a vehicle and he could be asked to transport us to that place. Mr Mthambo then ordered them to pass by Mr Nyawuza's home to inform them that he should take us to Ngonyameni on Friday.

ADV BIZOS: Yes, but I am talking about Mr Goosen. Mr Goosen wasn't in the room, he must have got the information from you and your colleagues in order to pass it on to his Minister, to your Minister and his Minister?

ADV GCABASHE: When did he pass away?

MR MABUZA: Just before you get to the hostel, you have to pass a few streets. The street that I have mentioned. Between Schoeman Road, the Schoeman Road was the boundary between the ANC and the IFP, we had to fight the people who were nearer to the boundary.

Only a court of law can find Doctor Basson guilty of an offence. Only a court of law can pass sentence of a fine or of a period of imprisonment that is effective. This Commission as far as I am concerned is not vested with those powers and is incompetent to make such a finding.

There was an intervention by Mr Semenya, where he complained about the process, I’ll by-pass that and go on to page 19 where I go on.

ADV MPSHE: Alright, let's pass that one. In your application this is what you have all mentioned and I will quote it because I'm talking to you now. Under paragraph 10(a) where it says: State Political Objective you achieved, amongst others you say

MR HOLDER: Well Mr de Meillon said we had to pass there, go and see how many guards there were, what arms we could get there.