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PassExplanation Showing 801 to 820 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 Next Page•Last PageMR MALINDI: So if you knew of this unit of highly trained members of MK, your priority was not to pass on information so that they get arrested when they go out on operations, your priority was to recruit them as informers? this process and I am no longer optimistic enough that I will get my son's bones, but maybe, seeing that you are still very young, a minute if I can pass away, then you will have to take over". ... MR DE KOCK: Yes Chairperson, there was a gate there which was locked and one had to pass the guards or the security division of Penge Mine and one had to collect the keys for the gate from them and the members in control of the security division there had to be informed as to how long one would be ... ADV GCABASHE: And then you were then supposed to pass this message on to others, was this the idea? ... where the bag was with the spring-charge and I saw that it was still on the other side of the gate. I climbed onto the gate and asked McPherson to pass the bag to me. He passed the bag to me, it was a canvass bag, I can't recall exactly what colour it was, I hear that it was green but I can't ... ... So the mere fact that a far stronger explosive device was used, and was placed at a point to which non suspecting members of the public had to pass, would you say that that was reasonable steps taken to avoid the possibility of injury to unsuspecting members of the public? According to you, ... "Charl Naude told us that he had agents in Botswana and that he would arrange for one of those agents to pass on the information when Mnisi was in the vehicle and McKenzie not being in the vehicle at the time, so that the bomb could be activated by means of remote control." MR MBELE: There was a wire in Moshweshwe Street and some trees and we removed those so that we can pass through. When we approached from the corner, there were stones blocking the road in Lekwa. That is at the point when we met the self defence units. After that I followed the road that I have ... songs led the procession. They were followed at a distance by the first group of adults. Applicant and his companions allowed the group of youths to pass their position. When the first group of adults approached the signal was given to attack. Applicant and the others opened fire on this group. ... MR NADASEN: Thank you. Mr Mdletshe, you said that, did you complete standard 3, did you pass standard 3? ... hiding but still looking after it so that when you realise that this is not a person who is attacking you should remove it so that the person can pass. It so happened in many times in the past that this thing of judging others racially and referring to people as Xhosas and Zulus, that shall be ... ... place. We can't judge whether they were on a frolic on their own or not, by Cronje or Hechter, they have no knowledge of this incident. They can pass no judgement on that incident and I think the evidence is that they were reliable people in general and they should accept their word or what ... the military vehicles around that area. They were moving I think between Block H and Block F in Soshanguve and one of the military vehicles used to pass there. I went to Ting-Ting and briefed him about this and on the particular day we went there during the day to show Ting-Ting the spot and get ... ... proportionality as the Act charges us to do, Mr Chairman within the context of the conflict of the past, this particular matter certainly must pass that test of proportionality and for that statement, for that submission we rely on previous amnesty applications and decisions handed down by ... MS GCABASHE: Yes, but what did you then pass on to your men, you know, you had no timeframes, you knew you did not want to injure persons, that was the instruction, when would this have to be done to make sure that these things in fact did not happen, you know, people were not injured? ... to me last, we were just talking about the past and he said, you don’t know my child the humiliation that we went through when we went to take the pass. He said to me they would go there and then one or - the males and then they were supposed to be naked and he said there were 30 year olds and ... ADV SANDI: When did he pass away? ... very much for telling us your side of the story. After Ruth has spoken, I would like to make some comments about your testimony as well. Could we pass the microphone on to Ruth, please. Ruth, are you going to speak in Xhosa or in ... ... back 20 years. You have the loss now and the silence that you were suffering. Thank you very much for that. I have no further questions. I will pass you back to the Chair, thank ... DR RANDERA: Dr Goosen can we just not pass this issue about mistake. When people say it was a mistake and these conversations took place, can you be more precise about that. Because was it a mistake or was it a belief system, a culture that prevailed at the time that said you know, black people ... |