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people's warExplanation Showing 281 to 300 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 •19 Next Page•Last PageWe’re coming as an alternative force and then we have to prove to the people that we are indeed an alternative force, and then we had to do it by means of demanding and pressurizing the government. what I think is important is that we have to take that example as a lesson and say it can go wrong elsewhere in the country as well unless we work towards getting ourselves together as different communities, as different individuals, as people belonging to the same nation. So the moral fibre is a ... Are you going to apologise to the people who died in jail, who died in Lesotho, who died in … // No, I’m praying for them. This episode begins with some background to right winger Leonard Veenendal, who gave testimony at the HRV Committee hearings in Newcastle (11 to 12 September). The following segment focuses on the first part of the Bisho massacre special hearings (held in Bisho, 9 to 11 September) where we hear ... The names of some policemen keep coming up during the Commission hearings. This is warrant officer Joe Mamasela. He’s already confessed to being part of the murders of three Port Elizabeth community leaders and Durban lawyer, Griffiths Mxenge. He was mentioned again by the relatives of three ... Some people will be more able to finish their unfinished business, to get peace within themselves if they don’t have a grave, than other people. Some victims will suffer more to have that internal process completed than others. And some of them will need some facilitation to get there and to ... Right, let’s get stuck into that. Dr Mandela, we talked about perceptions now, but Mr. Mzizi is bringing up something else – the whole question of reopening of old wounds. He just said the healing had begun but now the Truth Commission has scratched open the wounds. Do you agree with that ... Krishna Rabilal was among the 12 ANC cadres slain that night. He was a student visiting Maputo from Swaziland. His brother saw the aftermath of the attack. // I was shocked to see the hundreds of bullet holes on the walls and the ceilings, it actually gave me an idea about the extent to which these ... ... those whose release ought to have been secured? // Chairman it must have been, but only three as I said were released to me. // And did you become aware when you personally drove them to the office of Mr. Naidoo that Stompie was not amongst those? // I was aware Mr. Chairman that Stompie was not ... Comrade Mzwai Philiso, he was the head of the ANC Intelligence and Security he said I know the guy so he sent people from Zambia to debrief me. The brief last about a week in a motel outside Harare. I was asked questions, everything from sexual inclination, from my birth, my schooling, my ... ... it became the SANC, we never saw Desmond Tutu for more than 20 seconds. And then all he said was ‘sanctions’ and we thought, die kabouter [the dwarf/goblin/pixie]! But what a sweet, good man. He treats me like a human being, not like an enemy. He always kisses my hand and he’s very small so ... Taking on a coloured identity meant far more than just a change of name. To be a convincing coloured meant giving up all vestiges of a former black identity. // The only thing that you had in mind now in order to get away from these claws that are haunting you as an African people, you had to give ... Our Truth Commission here is very different because we have television cameras recording every single moment and radio microphones, and it’s broadcast on a daily basis. Does that in your experience make a big difference? // It’s absolutely remarkable to me to watch the process here. I mean, ... The conflict of the past is not only about white oppressors. When we talk of reconciliation there are so many shades of the past that now have become levels for reconciliation. What about black informers, black policemen, black councillors, black collaborators? What about the ongoing strife between ... Originally my view was rather more radical in that I felt that those who were responsible for ghastly deeds which brought about so much suffering to so many families or so many people, many of whom were members of my own congregation, and many of whom were my friends, I felt that there had to be ... Did you ever before today disclose that fact that you were a policeman when you were serving on the Star? // No I did not. // Is it today the first time actually that you disclose that? // That I’m disclosing that, yes. Other people may have had, Mr. Chair if I may add, their suspicions and I ... The room was full of blood, on the walls, and they said to me ‘do you see the blood on the walls?’ They said ‘this is the blood from the people like you, people who do not want to speak the truth.’ Before they could grab me they said, they asked me about Tsepho, that’s my aunt’s child. ... Were there cases in which special forces cooperated with the police in eliminating people i.e. killing people in accordance with the plan that you testified to before lunch. // That is correct. // And are those the matters in respect of which you have applied for amnesty? // That is correct. // ... But when the interrogation started, Benzien and Nortje were present. They were the only other people in the room with me and when they started interrogating me the intimidation had already taken effect. This intimidation of me had already started when I was in this room and the security policeman ... Numsa Tshabalala says her son Sibuniso disappeared shortly after Lolo Sono. // Then he said, if you say Lolo was taken by Winnie Madikizela’s people then probably I will be taken there as well. And we left for work, when we came back Sibuniso was not at home. When Sibuniso had gone, that is after ... |
