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people's warExplanation Showing 401 to 420 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 Next Page•Last PageSo in the end, the decencies of ordinary people, the way for example we treat immigrants in South Africa, these are part of a concrete form of morality that I’m interested in; not the vaporising of theologians and all that, but how do ordinary people order their lives that takes into account the ... Well let’s go straight to you in Cape Town to Mr. Mzizi, the perceptions in your part of the world and in your specific political party, could you talk about that to us, the IFP’s perception? Has it been one sided, has it been fair? // Well Max, I think you have hit the nail when you say it has ... This is the Vaal Triangle, home of Eskom, Sasol and many other big industries. Also home to millions of people who work at these industries and their families. They live in grim townships such as Sebokeng, Sharpeville, Bophelong and Boipatong. For some, mostly men from KwaZulu-Natal, this is only a ... I was nearly hanged for something I didn’t do, I didn’t know anything about. I asked myself that how many people have been hanged who are innocent. Even today I’m not able to believe that I was in death row. // Duma Khumalo was granted a stay of execution 24 hours before he was to be hanged. The women always come there talking about what happened to their sons, to their husbands. They hardly tell us about what has happened and yet when you probe deeper you also find that they also experienced violations and some of them more terrible than some of the people they have come to talk ... I think with Magoo’s, you know we had a certain philosophy – after every activity that we did, after every action we would tell ourselves that it never happened, it was just a nightmare – it never happened. And you would sort of conscientise yourself to deaden that memory. It was a horrible ... I had gone there to shoot any living thing. It was my aim to shoot anybody within the tavern // The rifle grenade that was fired in by Mr. Madasi, why did that have wire nails either glued or fixed to the head of the rifle grenade. Can you explain that to us? // We decided to make it so, so that as ... One small question, when you accept I think moral responsibility, what does that mean? // As I understand it I can’t run away from those occasions where somebody as a result of my action and as a result of misunderstanding my words, committed an offense. I am morally obliged to stand by him and ... We knew that they had need of transport and we knew that they were 6 and that they were armed. With the result that we saw our duty as getting to them before they escaped us. So it would have been a risk from a security point of view to let these people enter and to later get hold of them. And we ... ... not cope, not in facilities to accommodate and feed the tidal wave of newcomers nor in training them. The ANC’s next crisis followed shortly afterwards. The apartheid government recruited, bought and blackmailed hundreds of people to infiltrate the ANC camps. Soon, the ANC was overcome by a ... They were formed to persuade the Moutse”s Sotho speaking people to agree to be part of the KwaNdebele, which the Moutse people rejected and resisted until they won it. They were very fierce guys. When they go and attack they used to have a kind of a paint. They painted themselves white, whether ... The shocking images of Sophiatown, people just being uprooted and carted away much against their will and quite hopelessly struggling against this thing, the machine of the National Party government at the time was just simply too strong. // Shortly after that the area was razed to the ground. In ... It was the worst of it, where people are not allowed to stay with his wife. They said when they are married that you will be separated by death, but they are separated by the police. The Committee seemed unconvinced of his political motive. // So, you were the judge, the jury and the executioner. // That is correct. // What was your view as an experienced policeman about instructions by somebody who tells you that you must be the judge and the executioner of people? // I ... ‘Church Street Bomb Pretoria, May 1983.’ // It was the Air Force target. Had that bomb gone off at 4:30, it would have caught the majority of people … the overwhelming majority would have been from that place. But it went off prematurely and it had been carefully reconnoitred, so there was ... I became known, especially in the Western Cape, as the person to contact if cadres got injured or people were in danger in some kind of way. As you know many people couldn’t go to hospitals because they were at risk of being arrested. So, my little house became a little hospital or clinic and ... The TRC is the only forum with some credibility and acceptability available to us in which we can publicly apologise to all those who had been hurt by the travesties of the past. It is the most effective way available to us which we can use to offer help and healing to those who had committed ... by an ANC tribunal to 15 years hard labour. // Beatings continued and you’ll find that, you know, I will eat maybe once in a week. And the prison warders that were there, you know, were the people who didn’t have any mercy for people like myself. Because they said no, they caught a big fish. ... The people who had to be killed were three United Democratic Front activists: Qaqawuli Godolozi, Sipho Hashe and Champion Galela. They led the Port Elizabeth Black Civic Organisation the so-called Pebco Three. In March 1985 they had organised the three day stay away in the Eastern Cape. Their ... Was his information accurate? // So far, I think his information was accurate. // Eight people were travelled from Johannesburg, and they would meet up with eight more in Queenstown. In Queenstown they made contact. Everything went hundred percent from there. Fire arms were an issue to them, ... |
