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people's warExplanation Showing 421 to 440 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 Next Page•Last PageThere was never any reference after that meeting at any time of the third force in any discussion that I can recall except for this continued discussion on do we establish another overt force or not. There was never any reference that I can recall in any way whatsoever of our policy using terrorist ... It was, as I said, a very very unpleasant event in my life and I would not have been able to put them through unnecessary physical pain. // These people were high-profile people; they were learned people. They were politically active and they had no fear of the security branch, neither did they ... ... That is a responsibility of all South Africans. And I think that all South Africans must see it as their responsibility to make a contribution towards the nation building and reconciliation process. So, the money which needs to be found to ensure that there is reasonable reparation, whatever ... I think that the most difficult, and it’s at the same time a low and a high, is the people who testify before us, especially the women, the aunties that came for the first time to tell their stories, who were thankful for the opportunity that the state paid attention – that moves me – that ... Evidence on the murder of Dr Abubaker Asvat will now only be heard on Monday. That will include the dramatic statement by one of the convicted killers, Zakhele Mbatha that he got the murder weapon from the hands of Winnie Mandela. On Tuesday, the so-called coach of the football club and the man who ... I cannot specifically say the number and I won’t be able to know that, because I didn’t count them. I only looked at the place and I saw that there were people inside and there were many. I don’t know how many there were. Mbane’s testimony was at times confusing. // You wanted to do it. // First of all I didn’t know that those people were going to be shot, because when I went to there to show Bellingam that point we were going to, they didn’t tell me that they were going to shoot them. They didn’t tell me ... I don’t know how the man on the ground saw the position. I don’t know how he could have said the pressure was great and how I can act illegally. Perhaps of the greater pressure we exerted on them, they experienced greater pressure to act illegally and perhaps then that is also part of my ... That night what happened, I was sitting in the dining room. It was myself and there was another friend of us, Dada, he’s staying in Soweto so he used to visit us and we were playing cards in there with Stompie. It was myself, Dada and Stompie playing cards in the dining room. So we heard a noise, ... By lunchtime as the hearings draw to a close the Committee looks back at the Human Rights Violations hearings which started in April last year. // Over these past months we have been taken by victims like yourselves today, we have been taken into what I can only describe as the very heart of ... Their friend, Ruth Gibizela survived, but it is here in the ruins of what was once a witdoek prison that she and others lived a night of terror. // These men asked if we could see the red sea, this here is the red sea. We looked at it, and when we looked we saw the heads of people, the necks were ... But you see where things really went wrong was in the workplace. The one time the Kleynhans brothers were coming to the … and he says to the people, those that have got licenses could they come one side. All the chaps were very happy, they were going to drive trucks and things and then they found ... The first address given is that of Mr. Nelson Mandela and then there are some notes: the house of such and so is deliberately not numbered but is easily recognizable by ‘bla bla bla.’ It’s obvious why this description is there mister Chairman to me, and that is because the house was not ... ... a symbol of reconciliation. And I said well how is it a symbol of reconciliation? And he said it’s because at this point people who used to be warders here are now working with former prisoners hand in hand. I just was wondering how this was for you, because you’ve been here for seven ... ... apparently, when the Buckaneers and the Camberers came in, most of the people were assembled on the parade ground. And, they caught them totally unaware and literally hundreds of people died on the parade ground. Any large external operation that the South African Defence Force did required ... ... into Natal command. The information given was that Natal command off-duty personal go to this particular areas and also people from the C R Swarts police barracks. // In this time of truth and reconciliation, isn’t it time that you named your commanders who gave you this order. Why ... I haven’t even reached 12 yet. I wasn’t even in standard five yet. That’s when I became wanted by these people who call themselves the justice system, but we all know that they were the injustice system. In 1987 nearly the whole organisation I represent here today was arrested. I was still on ... The year is 1993. South Africa was on the eve of a remarkable negotiated settlement. One area was clinging steadfastly to the old order, Lucas Mangope’s homeland of Bophuthatswana. The people of the homeland mobilized for their freedom but Mangope’s security forces did not let go easily. At the ... ‘On Interrogation…’ // I had two sort of major sets of interrogation. The first was the old statue one, draw a line and Swanepoel sat there with the various other people and said ‘Jy gaan praat’ [You will talk] and you know you stand there until you talk. And within, I think maybe it ... You know when you heard it you thought it was absolutely impossible, here she was ready to come home in two days and of all the times she’s been in and out of Africa the last four or five years that this happened. And I think, you know, we were totally devastated… // What Linda says is true. If ... |
