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people's warExplanation Showing 461 to 480 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 Next Page•Last Page... of the student representative council of UNIBO, now it’s called University of Northwest. I was also a member of South African Student Congress. Towards the end of January 1993, after we realized together with the student leadership in South African Student Congress, we decided that we should ... I remember that my brother uttered a word to me that I will never forget in my life. I had visited him at the Garangua hospital. That’s where he told me and said ‘my own colleagues are going to kill me,’ so I then asked ‘what do you mean they are going to kill you? There is no way you as ... ‘Thank you very much my dear, thank you very much my friend. We are the rainbow people and as we all know at the end of every rainbow is a pot of gold. Ours has been stolen. Ha! Ha! Ha!’ Was there any question that those to be killed were ANC members? // No, he only referred to Goniwe and similar cases. // He didn’t mention that these people were recruited by the ANC? // No, no there was nothing like that. Yasmin Sooka … hey, I am chairing here … // Then if we take what you say further all the politicians should have applied for amnesty in these cases where killings were a result or gross human rights violations were a result of these kinds of actions? // I listened to what my former colleague, ... I personally can perceive no definition of direct human rights violations which could possibly be attributed to business generally during that period. My view is that business could certainly have been seen to be doing more, but whether that would have had any affect on a government determined to ... That’s the area that I am finding a little bit difficult in giving a one and definite answer. I can only say, since I say also in my affidavit, that this is not new to me. I’ve just been handed in, in fact, from my office I’ve had it faxed. In 1992 there is a press statement which apparently ... In stark contrast really to what have taken place in the business sector hearings where on the whole you found people in a self justifying mode. Here, extraordinarily, virtually every single one of those who testified from the different faith communities and the different Christian denominations ... ... the activities of you and your associates you label them, as informers and working with the system. What is your reaction to that? // I am not aware of people I have falsely accused of being informers whenever they are working against me. // Well you are yet to prove any evidence that they ... I did report to Dr Lang, as one following dutiful procedure, and his attitude was basically look give these people the treatment they need, you know if they need a Panado give them a Panado, if they need an X-ray have them X-rayed but that’s where our job stops. It’s not our job to find out why ... iTigers iNational Party; iTigers iAfrikaners. We are also going to organize the tigers of the people. Over the fourteen months the South African truth process developed its own unique identity. Even while listening to the most harrowing testimony people could still laugh. People also sang, gave comfort to others and when there was nothing more to say, they prayed. ... whole armed struggle was the continuation of that. And actually we can draw the ancient wisdom from our forefathers when Dingaan said to the Zulu warriors ‘Bulala abathakathi.’ What did he mean? He meant that those dispossessors, abathakathi, the Zulu warriors didn’t ask among themselves ... ‘Makoma’s statement read by lawyer’ // As the hand grenade exploded we took cover behind the doors, re-entered and while the people inside were screaming we started to shoot. We shot indiscriminately and I finished my full R4 magazine, some 31 rounds of ammunition. You were there to protect not to attack, not to kill. // Yes it is so sir. // Can you explain how you can possibly think you were protecting anybody when these four people were being beaten by a vast crowd? Why should it be necessary for you to join in beating them with an iron rod? This cocktail of God and fatherland was backed up at home with medal parades and military manoeuvres. The news was clinical and heroic. To keep the machine rolling and white South Africa’s morale up, the blood and guts, the dying and killing was not shown. Those who came back from the killing ... There were shots and people were crying. As I was running a white person said ‘Zulu, capture him, there he is’ and I went straight into the passage. When I got into the passage they couldn’t see me anymore and I heard a loud bang of a gun behind me, seven times. I ran just alongside the ... As advocate Bizos clearly said today, we knew that when you get taken by these people they can get anything out of you, because if they don’t get it from you voluntarily they’ll smash you up to get it and that is what they have done with all of us and that is what our, of course presumption is ... I mean you make a braai around the person being burnt alive, being blown to pieces and … nothing! You don’t see it. That’s what I therefore think, that evil has a tendency of not only taking away from you the feeling that you’re human but it blinds your eyes, you can’t see. It blinds your ... I think there’s no doubt in my mind that there was a final solution in South Africa and the final solution involved the forced removal of more than three million people from their homes. And I think in terms of what that did to the spirit of a people and what it was designed to do, it had ... |
