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people's warExplanation Showing 481 to 500 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 Next Page•Last PageMR MOGOAI: Those are the people that I met for the first time when I was taken to that base. It was a caravan like house that I was taken to. Those are the people that I left with to that place. If I was in their company, then Mr Mngadi was the driver, because Mr Mbelo and Nzimande were not ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, I did not work with the mechanism itself, that was the work of the Technical division, but I do know that it was linked to a battery and I think it is something similar to a watch battery, so it would have run out after a period of time, which have rendered the device ... MR MTHALANE: With regards to Mr Mkunu, it was Mr Kuswaya who showed me that there were ANC members, and he also showed me the area that that was an ANC area. It was usual that there would be political conflict in the area, instances such as exchange of fire. On that day, the 27th, we had been ... Yes sir, it is as the previous speaker said according to the time and everything where the Captain issued the - the order for them to shoot and hardly 5 minutes thereafter they started shooting. And I went to hide at the walls and moved that way but before the people started dispersing I walked ... streets and there was still this confrontation between the White people and our children and people. Because whenever the soldiers would come across our people, they would shoot those. MRS TONISI: We would hear from people in the township that they were in these different places. We did not receive any letters from him and he never phoned us. MR KOEKEMOER: I don't know who exactly went to fetch Mr Bambo. The person who signed for him, it's not clear on the form, but I do believe it was one of W/O Grobler's people and I do not know whether W/O Grobler was with. MS MKHIZE: Listen carefully to me. I know that you were not there when this incident occurred. However, if any great event happens, people normally talk about it. Didn't you hear from rumours as to finding a clue what happened at the time? This is going to help us in investigating the case. Another issue which was raised by Adv. Mpshe in argument, was whether the application for amnesty should not be refused on the ground that the applicant and his victim, in count 1, were both members of the PAC and APLA, that is the victims was not a political enemy. Evidence submitted before the ... MR SELOANE: Yes, the attack was politically motivated. In the Unit I was part of, Akila was operation's person, Stanza was our Commander and I was the Political Commissar. We were working with Youth Organisations and Student Organisations and as Akila indicated, you know the Police were the enemy ... According to his testimony, the Applicant and his comrades Denis Moeti and Abram Zweli together with their commander, Moss Mothopo, aslo known as Ramapapa, left Alexandra for Springs, on the day of the incident. Moeti could not be traced and Zweli who is in prison did not attend the hearing. ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? trial that followed. So I would like to ask you to perhaps start from the actual day of the incident, the 13th of November and tell us from there onwards what happened to you. --- I am going to ask for forgiveness that I am not educated, first of all, I will not be able to give the dates in ... Ms Mjada and Ms Ntsizakalo I think every mother who heard you speaking today ill be able to sympathise with you. We all hope that our sons will grow up healthy and strong and able to lead productive lives. And we can really understand your anxiety about them now about their future. You’ve shown ... MRS SOYA: Yes, I did. I told him that children were being shot at the location and even other people too from the location came with that information and they were telling a lot of things that were happening there. ... attack would have been triggered off by a minor assault upon Applicant's brother, in the absence of any pre-existing political animosity towards the deceased. The fact that the Applicant was a policeman at the time renders the existence of political animosity towards him even more ... MR MOERANE: Unfortunately in this incident civilians happened to be around the place at the time of the explosion and were injured. Do you have anything to say to the injured people? JUDGE MOTATA: Just to go back to you, Mr Coetzee? At the beginning, I don't know if I've got everything right, you said you are representing the family of Mr Neethling, the driver, who is now deceased. We are supposed to, in terms of the Act, if we do grant amnesty, that we should refer to the ... The Committee recommends that the injured people listed in Annexure "A" hereto be referred for consideration as victims in terms of Section 22 of the Act. ... in line with the APLA policy of attacking white homes and "repossess" weapons for use by APLA. He could not corroborate Duma that the money was forwarded to their Head Quarters in the Transkei which were administered by one "Mbulelo Dlamini", but he assumes that the money was received by Dlamini ... |
