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people's warExplanation Showing 481 to 500 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 Next Page•Last PageMRS SOYA: Yes, I did. I told him that children were being shot at the location and even other people too from the location came with that information and they were telling a lot of things that were happening there. Applicant did not know any of the attackers but was informed by Mutwa that they were people opposed to the police. After his discharge from hospital Applicant and Mutwa were reprimanded and assaulted by their Commander Captain Vermeulen who was upset by the incident. CHAIRMAN: I just want to ask you a question. Were there any endeavours to report the Government, because your people came back from detention in ill-health. I do not know whether you understand me well? MR KHOTLE: We are people of flesh and blood, we should be able to have food and have guns so that we would be able to continue with the struggle. MR MOGOAI: Those are the people that I met for the first time when I was taken to that base. It was a caravan like house that I was taken to. Those are the people that I left with to that place. If I was in their company, then Mr Mngadi was the driver, because Mr Mbelo and Nzimande were not ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, I did not work with the mechanism itself, that was the work of the Technical division, but I do know that it was linked to a battery and I think it is something similar to a watch battery, so it would have run out after a period of time, which have rendered the device ... MR BELLINGAN: Chairperson, I do not have all the details, but I believe it would have been the movement of people and vehicles which stopped or went past that specific house, but the finer details I cannot remember. CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much for coming forward. It must have been difficult for you to come and share about those experiences especially in view of the fact that some of the violations that you are talking about occurred in the context of people you believed in. We will, certainly, pass on ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) an affidavit from those people attached to this? MR LEWIN: Could I ask, just to go back, before I pass onto other people who might have other questions. How old was your son when he left in 1976? trial that followed. So I would like to ask you to perhaps start from the actual day of the incident, the 13th of November and tell us from there onwards what happened to you. --- I am going to ask for forgiveness that I am not educated, first of all, I will not be able to give the dates in ... JUDGE MOTATA: Just to go back to you, Mr Coetzee? At the beginning, I don't know if I've got everything right, you said you are representing the family of Mr Neethling, the driver, who is now deceased. We are supposed to, in terms of the Act, if we do grant amnesty, that we should refer to the ... DR BORAINE: Welcome Mr Meyer. My first word to you must be one of apology. You may have made other arrangements for this afternoon thinking you would be heard before lunch. I am sorry we can try and move but we don't want to do it to the detriment of people who are giving witness, so forgive us ... And we are aware of the fact that it was a time when there was a great deal of conflict in Mossel Bay and other people were killed and injured on that day too. Please tell us about what happened to your husband. REV FINCA: Mrs Tonisi, Mr Gobizembe and Thembakazi Tuku you’ve given us very painful and a difficult task with the regard to the disappearance of the people who were tortured those who were in exile under the ANC. I would like to add that there are also other incidents mentioned about the ... Then a Hippo arrived. There were police, white policemen. They asked me if I knew Abraham was dead in KwaNdebele. They said we do not want more than 50 people at the funeral. I went to KwaNdebele. I could not find corpses at the Government Mortuary. Where I found them I could not see ... MR VILAKAZI: That is correct because in one incident when we were at a night vigil for comrade Mati, these people who were in the company of Sgt Meyer arrived and attacked us. I do not know how they got ...(indistinct) to attack the MG funeral or not, so it was obvious at that time that they ... Van Dyk ordered him to conduct an interrogation of Mngomezulu. He did so, did not get any information except a few names of people that he did not know. He never assaulted Mngomezulu. He decided that continued interrogation would serve no purpose and that he had to be returned to ... ... knew the . He conceded that there might have been ill-treatment of Black people by a farmer or two, but stated categorically that he was not aware of it and that the deceased definitely did not ill-treat his ... Pursuant to this decision, Applicant and a number of other ANC Youth League members proceeded to the Dysselsdorp police station on 22 June 1991 where they occupied the premises. At one stage three policemen were present at the police station, but two of them managed to escape leaving Mr Tarentaal ... |