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people's warExplanation Showing 481 to 500 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 Next Page•Last PageMR LAX: One other aspect of your application concerns me a great deal and that is you have not told us anything about how you came to part him with his money and his watch. What happened to his money and his watch? You people stole R400 from him and you took his watch and you were convicted of ... Good before I ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself and then also to tell us about your daughter, I would like to just read some of the context statement that has been prepared by your research team so that we understand what the context was and - at the time of your daughter's shooting. ... The first applicant testified that the present meeting, prior to the incident, during which a decision was taken that licensed weapons would be carried when members of the AWB marched to the meeting, he was in the forefront of the procession together with the second applicant and was arrested ... T DECEMBER: No, I never even attempted to go to the lawyers, because at that time people were not even allowed to take any steps of that nature, otherwise you would be the next. MR SIBEKO: Will I be correct to say that in both incidents you were carrying and AK47 which you used to shoot against the people you were fighting with? Another issue which was raised by Adv. Mpshe in argument, was whether the application for amnesty should not be refused on the ground that the applicant and his victim, in count 1, were both members of the PAC and APLA, that is the victims was not a political enemy. Evidence submitted before the ... First applicant had deposed to an affidavit which forms part of the record before us, and basically confirmed its contents in his testimony. His version briefly summarised is to the effect that he is a member of the Pan Africanist Congress, the PAC, as well as the Azanian People's Liberation ... DR BORAINE: Mr Malgas, you have been listening yesterday and today, and you know that there are many different kinds of victims of human rights violations of violence. Your situation is quite different from a whole lot of other people. You are a victim of torture, of harassment, of imprisonment, ... CHAIRPERSON: Before we carry on with that, we're referring to this person, or two people at least, as "beeswagters", is it common cause that they were "beeswagters"? CHAIRPERSON: Yes, as implicated people, but not applicants? Have you got your notices? MS MTANGA: You mentioned that your Commander was Thebogo. Were there other people who were members of the unit and if so, what were their names? MS MAYA: Are there people who had been arrested in connection with this matter? CHAIRPERSON: ... (microphone not on) ... taking a look at the papers before us, on what basis was it that Mr Dube was included in this hearing? I mean if people are sitting in Cape Town now, and they are setting down the hearings, how would it, how would they in Cape Town have linked Mr Dube's ... MR MUHADI: I can start by on the 6th, when I was at home, I heard my sister saying that there were people who were calling me and on getting out, I realised that it was Abel who said I was expected to attend the meeting because ... In respect of the attack on the Wimpy Restaurant, Johannes Abraham Scheepers, Bietie Malope, Amanda Jan Elizabeth Clemson and Victor Serrano opposed the application. All of them declared their objection in one way or another, questioning the justification for injuring or the taking lives of ... MR VAN HEERDEN: How many people usually attended the conference? DR RANDERA: When your brother returned to the country, did the police not start coming back again and questioning you people again? At that time in Barkley West - Barkley West was quiet and people were not yet aware of what was happening. And sometimes I would get advice from my friends at Kimberley. They were only giving me advice on political matters and when I was at Barkley I realised that many parents at that time ... MR GOOSEN: Chairperson, as indicated, I remained in the vehicle. I simply heard the sound of the explosion, so I'm unaware which target was targeted during the explosion and whether or not people were injured. MR VENTER: My instructions given to me by Colonel Erwee was that if in our attempts to arrest these people, if some of them should escape and run in a northerly direction, then they would have come straight in our direction and we would then have to arrest them. |
