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people's warExplanation Showing 541 to 560 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last PageA warm welcome to the Special Report on the Truth and Reconciliation process. After almost two years of reporting to you every week this is our very last programme. We’re going to look back over the two years in this programme and we’re asking Archbishop Desmond Tutu to reflect on the process. ... ... and say we found nothing, there is nothing that happened there when we would have liked to see people who were actually in those camps coming forward and testify. And give a chance to those who have lost their loved ones to come and say yes I lost my loved one through this manner and that way. ... As an individual and perhaps being involved with quite a number of others it shows the recognitions of the efforts of those who fought against apartheid. And it does not only show how good and how well deserving their struggle was, but at the same time it shows appreciation of the people that were ... The cult of the individual, the cult of personality. I think those who have read the histories of the world would know about those events in various countries where powerful figures, where the desire, in fact their desire in even affect acquire reverence from in fact subjects, become so powerful, ... The politicians can say we didn”t give that order, because they didn”t give that order. It”s nowhere stated that we said so and so should be killed. We said so and so should be eliminated, but we meant that that person should be detained. And then never having any real knowledge, or real ... I will agree that maybe I summarized the matter wrong, but I’m of the opinion that the whole situation is so emotionally charged that different people will get different messages from what is happening. If people are assisted financially over time with counselling and guidance it gives them an opportunity to improve their lot so to say, in a variety of ways. But I mean as I’ve said to you really we are there as advocates for victims. At the end of the day the government of the day has got to ... Thereafter, what was done with the bodies of the deceased? // The wood was placed in a large pile in the backyard, the people were carried to the wood, put on top of it, // All three of them? // Yes. And it was set alight and diesel was poured over. In the old apartheid regime, when they called you a very good cop, you’re a cop who takes orders and execute them without asking questions; then you’re a good cop. // You obviously heard of your colleagues at Vlakplaas who were involved in killing people as well. // Yes, that came to my ... ... to members from National Intelligence, Military Intelligence, as well as the other intelligence agencies and nobody seems to be able to come forward with any shred of evidence. We are investigating this case as a murder case, be it KwaZulu police involvement, the KwaZulu government ... I was in the field with my animals, with the cows under a tree. While I was sitting there relaxing, and the cows were grazing, I just saw something like a car and when I looked at it I saw a group of people. I started to run away. I tried to, but they beat me and the others were screaming at me, ... ‘On Hearings…’ // My heart goes out for the women, because the women always come there talking about what happened to their sons, to their husbands, they hardly tell us about what has happened and yet when you probe deeper you’ll also find that they also experienced violations and some of ... ‘Report by Anneliese Burgess.’ // Claire Stewart lived here in the beautiful but remote extreme north of KwaZulu-Natal. For four years she worked here on a project aimed at improving the Nguni cattle herds of the local people. She lived quietly in the little village of Manguzi with her two ... If you did hear from the passengers that she was also a Comrade, that day, would you have acted any differently? // I don’t think so. // Can you elaborate? // At the time, we were in very high spirits and the white people were oppressive. We had no mercy on the white people; a white person was a ... We had come to the end of our tether. We’d been involved in that kind of thing seeing patients, seeing people being killed for 12 months already and all because I wanted to go and heal people and not kill them. And we went to see the local psychiatrist who was resident in Oshakati and the major ... Did you ever before today disclose that fact that you were a policeman when you were serving on the Star? // No I did not. // Is it today the first time actually that you disclose that? // That I’m disclosing that, yes. Other people may have had, Mr. Chair if I may add, their suspicions and I ... The room was full of blood, on the walls, and they said to me ‘do you see the blood on the walls?’ They said ‘this is the blood from the people like you, people who do not want to speak the truth.’ Before they could grab me they said, they asked me about Tsepho, that’s my aunt’s child. ... I do not suggest that people on both sides did not overstep the bounds of the authority. To keep harping on so-called apartheid crimes, conveniently ignoring the fact that atrocities were also committed by the opponents of apartheid is not conducive to reconciliation and amounts to an attempt to ... Alright, we have about a minute. // We have the policy which we’ve just come out with which we are going to present to the president, which actually deals with issues of material reparation, which deals with issues of restitution, on areas where there’s urgent need. And once that document has ... When all the ANC and Xhosa residents had left the hostel Vusimuzi turned its attention to the larger Tembisa community. More and more people started looking for their loved ones in mortuaries. |
