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people's warExplanation Showing 581 to 600 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 Next Page•Last Page... of the student representative council of UNIBO, now it’s called University of Northwest. I was also a member of South African Student Congress. Towards the end of January 1993, after we realized together with the student leadership in South African Student Congress, we decided that we should ... Did you lie to your attorney? // I did Mr. Chairman. // Nobody compelled you to lie to your attorney? // No one compelled me Mr. Chairman except for the fact that I was busy with an armed struggle and I was determined to give as much opposition as possible under any circumstances. // What support ... The CCB was nothing but a murderous, ill organized unit that killed and maimed innocent people. Sipho Hashe, my husband, was in Robben Island. He was arrested 1963 and came back 1973. And they gave him five years banning order, or registration I don’t remember which one is it now, but it was five years. He couldn’t even go out to the near school there. After my husband get through this, ... ... fathers of Cradock. Justice to me would certainly not be justice to Cradock as a whole, but I would like the people who have killed them to come forward so that people could know them. An eye for an eye wouldn’t do anyone any good, but at least honesty would be one form of justice. ... So I said to him, seeing that there is no South African diplomatic representative here I demand to see British High Commissioner. So, Commissioner looked at me and said, but you got a cheek, you got a cheek. So he calls somebody and says, take him down to the clinic. Then I knew more than ever that ... I see that Mrs. Seipei is in the audience here today and the thing that has been most difficult for me is that having heard the allegations I did not remove him from the mission house and get him to a place where he could be safe and I think if I acted in another way he could be alive today. And so ... The beauty of the Karoo’s wide open spaces belies a cruel apartheid past in which Black people were made to survive by passing themselves off as coloureds. During the apartheid years the Karoo became by law an official coloured preference area. For black people it became a hostile place to live ... I haven’t stopped coming home and when I started watching what was going on, especially in terms of the Truth Commission, it really struck a chord. I mean it’s absolutely a universal subject, one of forces of good and evil; that are completely universal. And it reminded I guess of the Nuremberg ... ... whole armed struggle was the continuation of that. And actually we can draw the ancient wisdom from our forefathers when Dingaan said to the Zulu warriors ‘Bulala abathakathi.’ What did he mean? He meant that those dispossessors, abathakathi, the Zulu warriors didn’t ask among themselves ... As advocate Bizos clearly said today, we knew that when you get taken by these people they can get anything out of you, because if they don’t get it from you voluntarily they’ll smash you up to get it and that is what they have done with all of us and that is what our, of course presumption is ... You were there to protect not to attack, not to kill. // Yes it is so sir. // Can you explain how you can possibly think you were protecting anybody when these four people were being beaten by a vast crowd? Why should it be necessary for you to join in beating them with an iron rod? The Truth Commission process is not about the Commissioners or the politicians. It belongs to the citizens of this country. While we were looking back at the Truth Commission’s first year we took our cameras to the streets, the townships, the suburbs and the shopping malls and we asked ordinary ... ‘Makoma’s statement read by lawyer’ // As the hand grenade exploded we took cover behind the doors, re-entered and while the people inside were screaming we started to shoot. We shot indiscriminately and I finished my full R4 magazine, some 31 rounds of ammunition. This cocktail of God and fatherland was backed up at home with medal parades and military manoeuvres. The news was clinical and heroic. To keep the machine rolling and white South Africa’s morale up, the blood and guts, the dying and killing was not shown. Those who came back from the killing ... There were shots and people were crying. As I was running a white person said ‘Zulu, capture him, there he is’ and I went straight into the passage. When I got into the passage they couldn’t see me anymore and I heard a loud bang of a gun behind me, seven times. I ran just alongside the ... In thirty minutes’ time 15 people are already sentenced. You just come… Why? What do you want? Why do you come to this area without a permit? As if you can be given a permit if you want to. I think there’s no doubt in my mind that there was a final solution in South Africa and the final solution involved the forced removal of more than three million people from their homes. And I think in terms of what that did to the spirit of a people and what it was designed to do, it had ... Our intentions were to take these people and hit them. And that happened, but while we were beating them we found that … while this thing was happening the people were very angry, people were singing freedom songs and they were toyi-toying as well and there was just chaos. And you could not say ... On the 28th of October this Lieutenant from the security police visited me again. He alleged that the security police had a file on Jurgens. And his words to me were, if we find him, we’ll shoot him, we’ll kill him. // On the 8th of November Hester Grobbelaar heard a radio news report of two ... |
