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people's warExplanation Thank you - thank you very much, that’s very helpful. I just - can you remember if you think back now did the police ever say why they were taking your brother or what did they accuse him of because he was obviously never tried - he was detained like so many other people but did they ever say ... CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. DR RANDERA: I would like to say that there are people here today who have come to make statements. If there are, please if you can go through that entrance at any time during the day of over the next three days. Statement takers are present and will be able to take your statements today and over ... Now are we to understand from this firstly, that there were experiments done on animals and in people, and in fact it was used in a combat situation, the incapacitant which was made up of, amongst other things, methaqualone? Sir, as I understand you correctly, you only saw two people assaulting the deceased, am I right? At this meeting we made the decision that the facility of Serache must be attacked by the Defence Force and that the people would be killed. MRS MTHINKHULU: On the 1st June 1986 I saw my younger boy coming. He is 12 years old. That boy was actually sent somewhere in one of the areas at Mangweni and then he said to his father there are people who are calling him. They are calling him in the passage and they want to know whether is he ... MR SNYDERS: Mr Chairperson, I was treated for post-traumatic stress after I was released or resigned from the police and after this long period of time and I compiled my application, it may be that some of the details I cannot recall or may be confusing some of them and also those people who were ... They realised that people used to come and sit there and they suspected that the petrol bombs have been We adjourned the matter yesterday because we were informed that they had been told the matter would be heard today and we felt it wrong to proceed in their absence. They are not here today. The representatives of the TRC have gone to Botshabelo to find them and have been able to make contact ... MR SIZANI: Mr Chairperson, I was accused by our headman, Mr Malangeni Makapela, he accused me of burning down his home. On that day I was at home. I heard that the house was being burnt down. I saw flames in that house. My uncle said that I must stay at home, because people were gathering ... ... as JJ. We took him to Fountain Police Station. We took him to one of the rooms. It was myself, Adjutant Killian, Sgt Mamone and Const Motala. Warrant Officer questioned JJ or Pappi, why didn't he contact him again to bring information. Pappi responded by saying he doesn't want to be an ... Thank you very much. There is more room, but I think the people outside, Thembeka if you could just tell the people outside there is more room and as soon as the witness is done with her testimony, they can be invited in, but while someone is giving testimony I don't think it is proper for people ... With regard to the incident which took place at Mazabekweni, we are of the opinion that there is insufficient evidence to link the Applicant to the killings which he heard off over the radio. There is no evidence that the persons killed included the two people who shot at the Applicant and his ... MR MBULI: Yes, Sir, in "expantiating" on this one, as I've earlier mentioned that no, as a unit, the thing which I came with this name, it was because of Mr van der Eck appeared on the TV, that no he wants to see the people who were involved in the laying of the mines. I didn't know that no, Mr ... Just behind my house I heard people making a noise, saying that there were policemen. I went out to look, then I saw my own child, I went there. MR NDLOVU: Yes, I regret because I went to Mozambique to fetch firearms and because one gun can kill many people. If we can find two people who can clarify what we were saying, the lawyer said that he would appreciate that. We worked very hard in Robben Island. I remember one day the warders were treating us very badly, we were working very hard. They said that all the drivers must go this way. MR SWART: Chairperson, I am not certain of what he knew. As far as I understood from Warrant Officer Nortje, he was a threat to the people and we had to eliminate him. CHAIRPERSON: Which identified him as being at the scene and which suggested that he actually threw the bomb that caused the explosion, that led to one person being killed and several other people suffering injuries? |
