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people's warExplanation DR BORAINE: Can you tell me, was there anyone else in the street where you were walking along 12th Avenue near 41, were you alone or were there other young people or anybody there? They realised that people used to come and sit there and they suspected that the petrol bombs have been MR MNGUNI: They had set the store alight and previously there was nothing then they started. That was when things started. Turmoil. People were not fighting. We adjourned the matter yesterday because we were informed that they had been told the matter would be heard today and we felt it wrong to proceed in their absence. They are not here today. The representatives of the TRC have gone to Botshabelo to find them and have been able to make contact ... The service started at two o' clock. When a speaker from the Mandela Release Campaign was on the floor, Mr Nhonhonho, who was in command of the police, Ciskeian Police at that time, addressed us saying that he knows that the youth was very strong. He asked the people to stop the youth not to ... At the time of the assassination of Hani, they were already investigating the presence of "suspicious" white people in the nearby holiday resort, whom they say they suspected of being part of the right wing organisations. According to them they based their suspicion on information received from ... During 1988, the Applicant and Riley together with others embarked on throwing black commuters from the trains in the Gauteng area. It was explained to him by Riley that the exercise was to fuel tensions between the members of the IFP and the African National Congress (ANC). The Applicant ... MS MANYI: No, but one was a white policemen from Le Granse. Then they asked whether we were the people related to Vuyani and we said yes. MR MMAKOU:: I wasn't at home by then, I was at work. My son and daughter came to tell that they received a message from Kanya House, telling them that Monageng has been killed by a bomb that blasted in Manzini in Swaziland and then I returned home with them and then I contacted Kanya House and I ... MR SWART: Chairperson, I am not certain of what he knew. As far as I understood from Warrant Officer Nortje, he was a threat to the people and we had to eliminate him. MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, he along with a number of other persons who were in the vicinity of this house in this street but did not reside there or have any business there or any people to visit there, all these persons were collected and detained. And as far as I can recall 11 to 12 of them were ... CHAIRPERSON: Right, you were amongst the people who took him to the offices at Mkwaie and as you have just stated you assaulted him, what else happened whilst you were still there or what happened in your presence? In 1991 again the, my mother was barred from entering. The case, well I might not say the, the right name. Mr Ntai was responsible for the case. After that we were told that all the people involved with the victims were seen and we would like to address this to the mother that we are not going ... ... receiving the death sentence. And we can’t know that, but maybe that was part of his objective in the evidence that he did give. And perhaps afterwards I could take a little more to Ms Lucas about what advocate Michael Donen told me about this ... MR VERMEULEN: As far as I can recall there were three people MR VISSER: Can you today recall any name that you specifically collected information about, that was promoted to Special Forces and that was one of the people that was killed or injured in this action? As we were guarding the township and we were watching the people who pretended to be politicians, yet they were criminals, so we tried to protect the neighbours, the community against such people. We also advised the people to avoid travelling during the night, because the police used to fire ... MR DU RANDT: After the Council Meeting I did go into the hall where the prayer hour had been held where my wife was still chatting to some people. MR MBULI: Yes, Sir, in "expantiating" on this one, as I've earlier mentioned that no, as a unit, the thing which I came with this name, it was because of Mr van der Eck appeared on the TV, that no he wants to see the people who were involved in the laying of the mines. I didn't know that no, Mr ... CHAIRPERSON: We are now going to call on Mr Sandi to call people. |