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people's warExplanation MR SNYDERS: Mr Chairperson, I was treated for post-traumatic stress after I was released or resigned from the police and after this long period of time and I compiled my application, it may be that some of the details I cannot recall or may be confusing some of them and also those people who were ... Now are we to understand from this firstly, that there were experiments done on animals and in people, and in fact it was used in a combat situation, the incapacitant which was made up of, amongst other things, methaqualone? Sir, as I understand you correctly, you only saw two people assaulting the deceased, am I right? CHAIRPERSON: The next witness, could those people who are leaving please keep as quiet as possible. "We noticed certain white people in civilian clothes assaulting some black street hawkers with sjambocks." CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. Thank you - thank you very much, that’s very helpful. I just - can you remember if you think back now did the police ever say why they were taking your brother or what did they accuse him of because he was obviously never tried - he was detained like so many other people but did they ever say ... Thank you very much. There is more room, but I think the people outside, Thembeka if you could just tell the people outside there is more room and as soon as the witness is done with her testimony, they can be invited in, but while someone is giving testimony I don't think it is proper for people ... We adjourned the matter yesterday because we were informed that they had been told the matter would be heard today and we felt it wrong to proceed in their absence. They are not here today. The representatives of the TRC have gone to Botshabelo to find them and have been able to make contact ... ... as JJ. We took him to Fountain Police Station. We took him to one of the rooms. It was myself, Adjutant Killian, Sgt Mamone and Const Motala. Warrant Officer questioned JJ or Pappi, why didn't he contact him again to bring information. Pappi responded by saying he doesn't want to be an ... MR NDLOVU: Yes, I regret because I went to Mozambique to fetch firearms and because one gun can kill many people. DR RANDERA: I would like to say that there are people here today who have come to make statements. If there are, please if you can go through that entrance at any time during the day of over the next three days. Statement takers are present and will be able to take your statements today and over ... With regard to the incident which took place at Mazabekweni, we are of the opinion that there is insufficient evidence to link the Applicant to the killings which he heard off over the radio. There is no evidence that the persons killed included the two people who shot at the Applicant and his ... MR MNGUNI: They had set the store alight and previously there was nothing then they started. That was when things started. Turmoil. People were not fighting. MR MBULI: Yes, Sir, in "expantiating" on this one, as I've earlier mentioned that no, as a unit, the thing which I came with this name, it was because of Mr van der Eck appeared on the TV, that no he wants to see the people who were involved in the laying of the mines. I didn't know that no, Mr ... If we can find two people who can clarify what we were saying, the lawyer said that he would appreciate that. We worked very hard in Robben Island. I remember one day the warders were treating us very badly, we were working very hard. They said that all the drivers must go this way. ... five White people came armed looking for this old woman. They said "open up, open up", I said not in this manner, you broke my door, you broke my wardrobes nothing is functioning well in my house. They asked for Tami, I said you will forgive me you asked for Sarah now you are looking for Timu. ... MR SWART: Chairperson, I am not certain of what he knew. As far as I understood from Warrant Officer Nortje, he was a threat to the people and we had to eliminate him. CHAIRPERSON: Which identified him as being at the scene and which suggested that he actually threw the bomb that caused the explosion, that led to one person being killed and several other people suffering injuries? After that, people used to come and pray for us at home, and the police would come and they would ask the people to go away - not to pray for us. They gave us a date for the funeral and we didn’t want to bury my son on that day, but we were forced by the police to do that. After that there was ... |
