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people's warExplanation DR RANDERA: Were there any other people who were affected in this way, who had also been exposed to the same tear gas? DR RANDERA: Can I ask again is Beryl Harmse here? No. I would like to then call Nomasonto Kgalema. Can I please ask individuals who are taking photographs, not to use their flash cameras as people are telling stories. Thank you very much. I want to welcome a number of groupings who are here ... MR MAMMBURU: I was arrested on the same day. The van took us to the deceased's kraal and we saw a big truck, there were other people on top of the roof who were just removing the zinc and stuff like that. MR KRUGER: I was definitely not the first to shoot. To my right were people who started MRS MHLABANE: During the year 1985 in June on the 10th, it was round about half past seven in the morning. I was on my way to work. Many people were in the street going up and down because there was a strike. But I was waiting for the taxi because I was supposed to report at eight at work. Some ... We spent some time there trying to gather the weapons and we explained certain things or discussed certain things with other people. After that our car came to pick us up to take us back home where we had to take the weapons to. MR CORNELIUS: Before the operation you gathered at Honeydew, there were various members of the Security Branch, you cannot recall the specific names of these people? CHAIRPERSON: Listen to my question. Under way to the house, what did you think was going to happen once the bomb had been placed? People would definitely have died? MS MAYA: In the statement before us on which your evidence today will be based we find that you are going to speak about Phumzile Gladwell Plaatjies, who was also part of the crowd of the people who was killed on 21 March 1985. I would like you to please tell us when did you hear that Phumzile was ... The plan was that Macaskill would arrange a party at his house and invite the group to join the party. He was also armed with some drug to dose the people at the party so as to facilitate the killing of these people. He would be paid R5000.00 per person killed. It seems that he had ... MR WILLIAMS: Now Mr Mbelo, I want to ask you, before you filled in your application for amnesty did you discuss this particular incident with any of the people that were involved in this incident? DR RANDERA: I would like to say that there are people here today who have come to make statements. If there are, please if you can go through that entrance at any time during the day of over the next three days. Statement takers are present and will be able to take your statements today and over ... MR HATTINGH: Yes and after his departure there were still some of the Witbank people in the vehicle who were busy with the deceased. Some time between 1990 and 1991 the Applicant was transferred by his superiors to Bloemfontein where they operated from a farm outside the city. He states that the Security Police and askaris used that farm as an "office base". Activists would be taken there for torture and questioning. One of ... people whom I sing together with at the church, they sought out myself with one old man, Mr Mashlala. The senior policeman, Masrumure, asked who Shiware was, and I said it was I, and the other policemen said he must let them arrest me. They did so and started hitting me and put me inside the ... He still leaves next to me but at this time he is not around. He is the one who picked up Christopher ‘s shoe at Thabane. The people from Thabane should be my witness. I am very geatful for this, I don’t know whether this was going to be known public. I cannot know the police and the pupils cannot ... MR NAZO: I stayed for a month, but one Sunday when the Boers were beating us certain people cried. We were then released on Monday. The applicants and their companions believed that they were acting onbehalf of the Bafokeng people in furtherance of their political struggle against anoppressive regime. We went into the first police station at the training college. When we got there we asked the police to take us to the Bophuthatswana police station so that we could look for my son. They said to us we don't have any pass to speak to those people or authorise them, go and ask them on your own so ... MR DU TOIT: Mr Chairperson, I would just like to confirm the following, with explosives there are no guarantees, it's always a very unsafe or dangerous set-up, but depending on the explosives and the way in which it is opened, one can have a relatively clear anticipation of what could happen. If ... |