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people's warExplanation CHAIRPERSON: The next witness, could those people who are leaving please keep as quiet as possible. I was just a laughing matter. People were just laughing at me. At school I cannot participate as much as I would like to. I fail all the time. I repeat every standard five times. CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. I asked for his clothes which they wouldn't give to me. I then went home. Then I told people there that they had told me when to have his funeral. MR HATTINGH: Were there no people in the houses or buildings who might have seen him? MR NEL: No, the names stated in my application are the people that I do remember. There were other people as well, as I've stated in number 5. I think there were more people there, but I can't remember who they were. (ii) Whether the fact that the arsonists later discovered that there were people in residence is responsible for the lacuna in the information admitted; CHAIRPERSON: Before we commence this morning, gentlemen, there are one or two matters that I would like to deal with and I would like to make it clear, we haven't pre-judged the issues in any way, but have you applied your minds to the question of the real relevance, as to whether somebody who is ... MR BOOYENS: Did you then give the radio signal that the people were being led in? I would like all the people who gave evidence this morning to stand up so that we can thank all of them. MR MOGAPI: Mr Viljoen is not right when he says many people were armed. When we arrived, it was - it was a lot of people, it was chaotic and the taking of the money happened in a very short time. I think he thought there might have been many people, yet it was only one person who had a firearm. MR MANTHATA: Ngoako Ramalepe was an SRC president at Motcheche College of Education in 1985. One day in the area of Gabane where there was a youth march organized by the youth in Gabane. At the end of the march during that day, the policemen appeared and they came to approach the people who were ... MR KHWEZA: You say Bobbie was with two other people. Do you know who were they? DR BORAINE: The next witness to appear before the Commission is Cornish Mmeko Makhanya and I would be grateful if he would come forward. Mr Makanya thank you very much for coming, you've had a long wait as well and we have had to rearrange the programme because of different people coming at ... JUDGE DE JAGER: Why do you say he practised a bad medicine, what did he do that was so bad? Because some people are doing good things, some bad, what did he do that you considered to be bad medicine tradition? ... regards to my child. She should be cared for. What kind of help can she be offered in this life? And the people who shot at her should come forward and they should tell us the reasons why they shot at my daughter and maybe I will have peace. I will stop there. Thank ... MR SIMELANE: Let me start off with the first one. As I was a member of the SDU we were divided into cells and sometimes there would be 10 to 15 people within a cell and each cell had a commander and there was an area commander as well as a central commander. MR KHUMALO: I will say that at that time, I was staying at the offices in Ulundi. Mhlanduna arrived with others and he asked if there are people, or whether there were people who wanted to go to Claremont to Mr Yamile's house and guard there because the situation was quite bad. MR LOOTS: It was so that we were approximately 20 or 25 people who came together. MR PETENI: Yes, I participated because what was important there, or what I knew about that day, was not the fact that -I knew the main purpose of my being there in that meeting that was called by Gen Nqoya, the reason why I went to that meeting is that I knew that we had to remove Brig Gqozo from ... |
