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people's warExplanation MR SNYDERS: Mr Chairperson, I was treated for post-traumatic stress after I was released or resigned from the police and after this long period of time and I compiled my application, it may be that some of the details I cannot recall or may be confusing some of them and also those people who were ... Good morning Mrs Joseph it’s just still morning, welcome and thank you. I know that you had to sit and wait for all the various other people until you could tell your own story. Please rise to take the oath. MR LEWIN: Mrs Masilela I'd like to thank you for coming and would like to welcome you to this hearing. While you were travelling this morning we did hear that there were some visitors from Germany but I don't think they travelled from Germany today so I think you must be the only person at this ... Thank you - thank you very much, that’s very helpful. I just - can you remember if you think back now did the police ever say why they were taking your brother or what did they accuse him of because he was obviously never tried - he was detained like so many other people but did they ever say ... ... five White people came armed looking for this old woman. They said "open up, open up", I said not in this manner, you broke my door, you broke my wardrobes nothing is functioning well in my house. They asked for Tami, I said you will forgive me you asked for Sarah now you are looking for Timu. ... If we can find two people who can clarify what we were saying, the lawyer said that he would appreciate that. We worked very hard in Robben Island. I remember one day the warders were treating us very badly, we were working very hard. They said that all the drivers must go this way. You were saying that it happened on 31st December 1985. Would you like to tell us further? --- Matambomtini arrived at my home in the morning to tell me that Mbulelo was shot and I asked as to where was he shot and where, and who shot him. He said to me, Mbulelo was ... [indistinct] by ... ... As we were guarding the township and we were watching the people who pretended to be politicians, yet they were criminals, so we tried to protect the neighbours, the community against such people. We also advised the people to avoid travelling during the night, because the police used to fire ... The service started at two o' clock. When a speaker from the Mandela Release Campaign was on the floor, Mr Nhonhonho, who was in command of the police, Ciskeian Police at that time, addressed us saying that he knows that the youth was very strong. He asked the people to stop the youth not to ... The applicant testified that their intimidation tactics and political campaign against the elections paid dividends because many township residents who were expected to participate in the elections on the voting day stayed away. The elections were a complete failure. In addition to the attacks ... After I got out of jail, I live in fear. I do not want to be with anyone. I did not understand at my age that I was not a criminal as I was detained - I thought a criminal. Then people would explain to me that when you are actually detained - you are not being charged of any criminal offence. I ... During 1988, the Applicant and Riley together with others embarked on throwing black commuters from the trains in the Gauteng area. It was explained to him by Riley that the exercise was to fuel tensions between the members of the IFP and the African National Congress (ANC). The Applicant ... MS MANYI: No, but one was a white policemen from Le Granse. Then they asked whether we were the people related to Vuyani and we said yes. MR MMAKOU:: I wasn't at home by then, I was at work. My son and daughter came to tell that they received a message from Kanya House, telling them that Monageng has been killed by a bomb that blasted in Manzini in Swaziland and then I returned home with them and then I contacted Kanya House and I ... CHAIRPERSON: The defensive one would have been - you were of the opinion that they would have killed the people handling them? CHAIRPERSON: We are now going to call on Mr Sandi to call people. We adjourned the matter yesterday because we were informed that they had been told the matter would be heard today and we felt it wrong to proceed in their absence. They are not here today. The representatives of the TRC have gone to Botshabelo to find them and have been able to make contact ... ... as JJ. We took him to Fountain Police Station. We took him to one of the rooms. It was myself, Adjutant Killian, Sgt Mamone and Const Motala. Warrant Officer questioned JJ or Pappi, why didn't he contact him again to bring information. Pappi responded by saying he doesn't want to be an ... MR NDLOVU: Yes, I regret because I went to Mozambique to fetch firearms and because one gun can kill many people. Thank you very much. There is more room, but I think the people outside, Thembeka if you could just tell the people outside there is more room and as soon as the witness is done with her testimony, they can be invited in, but while someone is giving testimony I don't think it is proper for people ... |
