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people's warExplanation Showing 601 to 620 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 Next Page•Last PageThere is a whole range of complicity we’re dealing with. Various countries such as Chile and Uruguay, which went through authoritarian regimes, have documented quite flagrant participation in torture. But they’ve also documented, as have other countries, that quite often what happened is very ... And you’ll find that with people knowing that it is possible to burn a person. I mean, that kind of coverage developed psychologically in the minds of other people whereby people felt now that it is a good strategy, it’s a more popular strategy to burn your enemy and in these rural areas most ... I didn’t think I would be very surprised by what I heard. I think all of us on the Commission have, in fact I think the whole country has learnt much more about what happened. Prepared in other ways I think I was very reluctant to accept nomination for the Commission. I didn’t want to do this ... Let’s get some comment in Johannesburg. // Max, I’d rather focus on where the Truth Commission has succeeded. To me, as a viewer. // OK, let’s talk about that. // I think that a lot of people in the case of Steve Biko’s killing wanted this not to be part of the TRC process. Their argument ... The worst part of it is that one couldn’t get out of it, you will just disappear like Ace Moema, we don’t know where he is. Many other people that were in Vlakplaas, they just disappeared. Even if you asked … if you posed a threat to the security, you’re gone. I wake up at night then small fat men with bald heads chase me. They chase me and pin me down. When I call for help no voice comes out. There was a time people said I was mad because they regarded those of us who came from the border as mad. According to me more people could have been killed that night if it wasn’t to the quick reaction of the people. The white guys basically, well all of them who’s got military training, so when you pick up a shot or when you hear shots going off you know automatically what to do. We actually are talking about creating something that never was in this country. // Conciliation as far as I’m concerned will mean that you have to take away the anger and the animosity in people and make them understand the need to stay and work together. In 1993 more than 1500 people were killed in the orgies of violence that engulfed the East Rand townships near Johannesburg. Most of the violence was rooted in the political conflict between the supporters of the ANC, who were primarily township residents, and Inkatha hostel dwellers. Bloody ... In Jo’burg it was worse because mostly people that was arrested, anyhow, anytime. Tress passers get in their houses, hotels, the police go inside of the houses or the flats; they search all these people. They want to know, where do you sleep, where do you come from, who’s your boss, what are ... Tonight we bring you a special documentary on the people of the KwaZulu-Natal midlands. // We also have a conversation with the Truth Commission Chairman Archbishop Desmond Tutu on truth, on reconciliation and the progress of the Truth Commission. // … you are very lucky, you are lucky that we ... We were actually restricted not to sort of take pictures at that time when that happened, when we heard the Archbishop sort of broke down. We all flied out of there, which was the media room to try to get pictures of it. With the result, we got there and it was all over and done with. But then I ... In the manse in December 1988 there were various people given refuge. Correct? // That is correct. // They included Katiza Cebekhulu, Stompie Seipei, Pelo Mekgwe, Thabiso Mono and Kenny Kgase. // That is correct. // Did you ever rape any of those people? // No. // Did you ever sexually molest any ... During the apartheid year many Africans living in the so-called coloured preferential areas gave up their ethnic identities and called themselves coloured. In the Karoo they called this ‘om jou baadjie om te draai,’ to turn your jacket inside out. There were many advantages to passing as ... The millions of people arrested for pass law offences passed through special commissioner’s courts presided over by so-called Bantu or Native Commissioners. The sentences varied from fines to floggings. Usually offenders were endorsed out, meaning they had 72 hours to leave the area. And the way they killed my husband shows that they are still telling lies. So I see no reason to forgive these people because the only thing they are doing, they are lying. I think what Verwoerd and Hitler had in common was the fanatics, that’s the one thing and I always regard fanatics as potentially very dangerous people, because they’ll go through the wall if necessary in order to realize their plans, their schemes. Secondly they propounded, I think a policy ... But we couldn’t see; we were outside the airport, but quite near, about 50 feet across. But we didn’t see what happened, but you could imagine. So there was a commotion. So Mike was shouting you people go down. The Constitution explicitly forbids torture and torture has been internationally, as you pointed out, recognized to cover not just physical abuse but psychological torture and I would agree that psychological torture is probably the most severe form of torture. I think internationally and ... [And in Cape Town today the PAC declared the following about the attack:] // ‘We think that this is the work of the third force, operating in this country to destabilize the transition to democracy. We are busy discussing the constitution here and it is no accident that this attack has occurred ... |