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people's warExplanation Showing 681 to 700 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 Next Page•Last PageIt is difficult to see my brother in this … like this. I mean it’s hard, it’s hard. There’s nothing I can say at the moment. It’s hard. I cannot even think anymore. If you look at white people, what they have done to our brothers, it’s bad. It’s really bad. What was it in our people or our history that made this ghastly practice possible and so popular? // There’s a whole process that leads finally to the brutality of the necklace as a method of murder. And that for me is actually what we should have recorded in the eighties and it never got ... So in 1974 Boraine joined the then Progressive Party and swopped the pulpit for Parliament. // ‘I look for that turning of the corner, that movement away, to take a new direction in South Africa, which will give us hope for the future. I believe that the people of South Africa are ready for that; ... I first got to hear about Jeff Benzien in the eighties when he was torturing people and they were untouchable. I mean, you couldn’t ask them questions related to it, you could do nothing. There were three or four photographers and it happened very quickly. One of the judges asked if anybody had a ... It was the worst of it, where people are not allowed to stay with his wife. They said when they are married that you will be separated by death, but they are separated by the police. Even if they didn’t call it the final solution, one has to look at the facts. How many black people were killed in the process of either struggling against apartheid and so on? How many black people died as a result of hunger? How many were disadvantaged in so many ways and so deprived of all ... So they are the people who know about what happened that evening. Why don’t they come out truly and tell the whole truth, because they are still lying and they let their lawyers lead them what to say and what not to say. How can we believe such people? How can we reconcile with people who are not ... You say that during this period - that’s during the eighties, mid eighties - both Ciskei and South African military and police forces were losing control of the situation and they showed using irregular forces and thugs as their covert agents to destabilize these communities and their Committee. ... The Bonteheuwel Military Wing started precisely because we needed to respond to the manner in which the state operated. We needed to one, defend ourselves, defend our community, because it appeared as if our community were under siege. We had a situation where there were, police put patrols – and ... Our objective was to reclaim the land so that it could be given back to its original owners, the African people. // The farmers…you must understand that they form part or they were part of the oppressors at that time, because the farmers, you could actually define them twofold: they can be police ... When they see, even at a bus stop, when they see black people in a queue, they quickly surround them; arrest them, those who have got no passes. Everywhere! Even going to church, on Sunday, going to church, they stop them from going to church. They ask your pass. If you leave your pass you are ... Four people were burnt to death and four others were badly injured. // Our intention was to burn down the house, but however things didn’t go as we anticipated and as a result of our actions people died, but never there was any agreement between us to kill anyone on that sad day. It was never our ... ... going to be emotional and I’m going to … I need these people who did these things to come and reconcile with them and to ensure that we move ... ‘On prison…’ // The experience, as I say yes it was quite a long time, but I was young and I had a much lesser sentence than other people. I mean, I had a parking ticket, seven years was ‘min,’ but it was really only inside prison, for me certainly, that the full reality of apartheid came ... We actually, we put our limpet mine in the Kentucky box in order to make sure that no one is going to be able to see us when we are putting inside the bin which was there in Berea Station. We behaved as people that were just eating this chicken and now we are throwing the box of the chicken, ... ... it became the SANC, we never saw Desmond Tutu for more than 20 seconds. And then all he said was ‘sanctions’ and we thought, die kabouter [the dwarf/goblin/pixie]! But what a sweet, good man. He treats me like a human being, not like an enemy. He always kisses my hand and he’s very small so ... This melting pot of musicians, writers, artists and gangsters has often been described as our Chicago of the fifties. One loses oneself in the romance of ‘guys and dolls,’ of super cool, of cutting edge. It was a time of no constraints in a time of chains as legislation slowly disinherited ... It was terror, Stalin was paranoid and he supposed that almost all foreigners are spies and many people in his own country also, he cannot trust them. Were the infiltrators armed? // Definitely. Both groups, as you know it was two incidents, two separate incidents. Both groups were armed. // No there were no firearms on them. There was absolutely no firearms found on these people and nothing were handed to me. That day of the murder I was busy with other things. I was fighting the police, for what they were doing was shooting people with teargas. // On that day of the happenings I was here at home… // I was not there where the policeman was killed. I don’t know who killed him up to this day. |
